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  1. #1

    Default I suck with QQ

    Hand #1

    Villain in this hand seems kinda aggro, but I have no meaningful stats on him, as I had only been at the table for a couple orbits.

    I think a should've 4bet this pre, but what do I do if I get shoved on. 4bet/folding QQ kinda seems like burning money, but is this an ok line 200bb deep?

    Flop I'm really unsure on as to what the best line is. I think QQ is well ahead of his cbetting range on the flop, but im unsure about this flop raise since he's probably only continuing with 99-AA after I raise him, which QQ doesn't have good equity against.

    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($24.30)
    Button ($30.10)
    SB ($171.90)
    BB ($27.85)
    UTG ($139.50)
    Hero (MP) ($53.50)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
    1 fold, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, SB raises $2.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($6.25) 9, 4, 10 (2 players)
    SB bets $4, Hero raises $10.50, SB raises $26

    Total pot: $27.25

    Hand #2

    Villain in this hand is a 50/5 fish. He called me down on three streets in a previous hand this session with A6 on an A-high board.

    He's likely peeling the flop with any pair, any draw, and probably any two overcards. Turn card sucks, but I think I still get paid by Jx and maybe random straight draws. What do you guys think?

    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($12.95)
    SB ($31.30)
    BB ($32.25)
    Hero (UTG) ($29.75)
    MP ($27.45)
    CO ($28.05)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero bets $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

    Flop: ($3.25) 9, J, 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, 1 fold

    Turn: ($9.25) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $9
  2. #2
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    1) i hate your flop raise. the only thing this does is maybe stack JJ if he's even 3-betting an ep raiser with that and stacking off to a flop raise.

    2) i think betting the turn is good but i don't think i would pot it. bet like $7-8. his flop calling range is pretty wide and i think on the turn he will likely not call another bet without like a 9+ gut shot, or A9 maybe.
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    I agree with will. Call flop and re-eval turn in hand 1. bet/fold like $7ish on the turn in hand 2.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by will641
    1) i hate your flop raise. the only thing this does is maybe stack JJ if he's even 3-betting an ep raiser with that and stacking off to a flop raise.

    2) i think betting the turn is good but i don't think i would pot it. bet like $7-8. his flop calling range is pretty wide and i think on the turn he will likely not call another bet without like a 9+ gut shot, or A9 maybe.
    Yeah I agree the flop raise in hand #1 sucks.

    As for hand two, I am putting him all in with the turn bet so I don't think the bet-sizing matters.
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    On hand 2:
    A draw and an overcard hit the turn. He's likely to fold a lot that we beat. Wouldn't it be better to let him push here?
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  6. #6
    On the first hand I'd feel more comfortable calling it down. You have a great hand that you don't want running face first into rockets or cowboys. On the second hand maybe bet 2/3 of the pot, like around $6.

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