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  1. #1

    Default KK and AA hands full ring

    These are actually from my first trip to a live casino, but I thought i'd get more replies here. All are full ring.

    Hand 1:

    Hero 300bb

    Hero AA, raise to 8xbb
    1 caller, Opp 250bb

    flop: Qs 4s 2h

    Opp goes All in
    Hero?

    Reads: opp is loose aggressive, calls every raise with atc and has sucked out on me twice alreaady with trash. He made exactly the same move two hands previous when I had TT and a flop of 3d 2d 8s. I decided to let that one go and folded.
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    Hand 2

    Hero AA 300 bb

    Raise 6xbb, one caller
    Opp 150bb

    Flop 9c 9s 3d
    Hero bets 1/2 pot
    Opp calls
    Turn Jh
    Hero checks
    Opp bets 3/4 pot
    Hero calls
    River 2 h
    Hero checks, Opp all in
    Hero??

    Reads: Opp is solid
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    Hand 3

    Opp1 100 bb, raises 6xbb
    Opp2 100 bb, calls
    Hero KK 200bb, calls

    flop 2s 4s 6d

    Opp1 bets pot
    Opp2 All in
    Hero?

    Reads: have seen opp2 move all in on draws before.

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    Hnad 4

    Opp 1(100 bb) raise 6xbb
    Opp 2 (300 bb) call
    Hero KJo (400 bb) call

    Flop: Ks Jh 2s

    Opp1 check, Opp2 bets pot, hero calls, Opp 1 folds

    Turn: 2d

    Opp2 bets half pot
    Hero?

    Reads: this is the first hand opp2 has played in 30 mins, my plan is to play this hand for 2 pair or better.

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  2. #2
    Hand 1: Snap call.

    Hand 2: Your 1/2 pot flop bet is weak. He shoves on the river with 90BB? Given stack sizes, easy call.

    Hand 3: Re-raise PF to 24BB, snap call the chaser.

    Hand 4: 3bet this villian...he's weak/tight if this turn helped him at all. You have top two, and he'll likely fold like a lawn chair. You can fold if he plays back at you.
  3. #3
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    what's the guy's range in hand 1?

    QQ+, 44, 22, As2s,As5s,As3s now I wouldn't put Q4 and Q2 in this range, but it could be there if he really calls raises ATC
    and flush draws
    he could have a lot of flush draws that he'd shove since he's aggressive
    so if we add say As8s, As7s, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s you have the odds to call
    if he ever does this with something like 35o it's a good call to make
    and if he ever does this as a stone-cold bluff then that's just pure profit over his value/semibluff range

    basically against very aggressive opponents it's hard to lay this hand down

    hand 2 I fold because he played it like trips so his range is probably Jx and 9x, and JJ+,33
    given he called the flop bet and didn't reraise you pf it's really hard to put him on JJ+ unless he's a nit
    I think you get shown a nine here a lot in live play because people don't bet that thinly, you'll see a lot of the time a jack check it down afraid that YOU'RE slowplaying trips

    hand 3 3b pf, call as played if he has a set/straight it's a hudge cooler
    hand 4 I raise the frop, as played I call the turn he could have AK or KK+,JJ but hopefully his range also includes KQ
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    what's the guy's range in hand 1?

    QQ+, 44, 22, As2s,As5s,As3s now I wouldn't put Q4 and Q2 in this range, but it could be there if he really calls raises ATC
    He's in every hand no matter what, raised or unraised ATC. And I found that to be the case a lot with live, that there was always a guy with deepstacks that was in every hand to see if he could hit lucky. So do I wanna risk my whole stack of 3 buyins with just a pair, even if it is AA? This guy could easily have hit 2 pai with rags. Aren't i better to lay it down and wait for something stronger where i'm prety sure i'm ahead?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by kb coolman
    Hand 3: Re-raise PF to 24BB, snap call the chaser.
    Something I've always wondered about this... when you re-raise pre-flop, aren't you basically announcing that you have AA, KK or maybe AK?
  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danh Bai
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    what's the guy's range in hand 1?

    QQ+, 44, 22, As2s,As5s,As3s now I wouldn't put Q4 and Q2 in this range, but it could be there if he really calls raises ATC
    He's in every hand no matter what, raised or unraised ATC. And I found that to be the case a lot with live, that there was always a guy with deepstacks that was in every hand to see if he could hit lucky. So do I wanna risk my whole stack of 3 buyins with just a pair, even if it is AA? This guy could easily have hit 2 pai with rags. Aren't i better to lay it down and wait for something stronger where i'm prety sure i'm ahead?
    Well, you only need to be ahead more than half of the time to make the call and have it be EV (even slightly below half is good enough)
    it's perfectly fine to lose a large pot... as long as you're getting your money in good
    and he might have a decent hand like KK that he thinks is ahead
    I've seen people openshove the flop with KK in a raised pot for no reason other than "omg there is no ace on the flop, all in"

    then there's hands like AQ which he might be ecstatic to see since TPTK is often a stack off hand in live games
    sure, he'll have two pair some times
    but you only care if you're good enough times for your call to be profitable

    and if he has no pair he's drawing to runner runner cards
    but if he has Q2 you have some outs like a 4 or an ace or runner runner paired cards
  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danh Bai
    Quote Originally Posted by kb coolman
    Hand 3: Re-raise PF to 24BB, snap call the chaser.
    Something I've always wondered about this... when you re-raise pre-flop, aren't you basically announcing that you have AA, KK or maybe AK?
    No, because you should be 3b QQ, JJ and sometimes TT in live games and AQs sometimes too since people don't fold when you 3b

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