Quote Originally Posted by allLiving
Quote Originally Posted by revolvingiris
I'm willing to play it more passively being there are NO reads on villain. I don't like to guess that he didn't hit the 4 card straight....I would also bet more on the turn. The 200 bet is small compared to pot and it looks very weak....You do have top set but as we all know, top set doesn't beat a straight. I'm not saying he is beat here. I'm just saying its very probable villain had pair with a redraw.
There are no reads. It's not "probable" that he has a pair with a re-draw. Most likely if that were the case, they would play more aggressively. Pair + redraw to a straight = re-raise for value, not a check-call to see if they can peel off a straight on the turn.
This makes your argument void. How can you state that he doesn't have, for example KJ because of reads. But yet you also state that there aren't any reads? Your guesstimate is as good as mine. Its as probable as it is improbable. KJ would CC if villain was worried you already had the straight, or any K+pair for that matter? Either way, my only point was that I am slowing down on the turn because I am not going to risk my tourney on what he MIGHT not have..