Standard fold or weak?

[yourfather]

These spots have been giving me a bit of trouble. C/R here is from unknown.

Give him credit and snap/fold TPGK every time without good reads?

Seems standard but i wanted confirmation.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $25
BB: $15.55
UTG: $28.45
MP: $27.05
CO: $42.50
Hero (BTN): $50.90

Pre-Flop: Q A dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($1.75) A 9 T (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $4.50, Hero folds

Results: $4.25 Pot ($0.20 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $4.05 (+$2.05 NET)

[bjsaust]

I think this could go either way. An unknown can often be doing this with a worse hand. Still, letting go of a small pot is preferable to losing a big pot, so I'd prefer reads to continue here.

[Fnord]

Let's see a turn.

[Kamawoop]

The big-blind never likes getting raised by the small-blind. I wouldn't fold; i'd either raise or call.

However, that's just what I'd do in the heat of the moment. Not sure it would be correct, I don't thinking folding here is ever a big mistake.

[nutsinho]

usually fold, sometimes call and stack off on blank turns

[Kamawoop]

My previous reply was rather sit-on the fence and wishy-washy. Here's what you should do and why:

As you have no-read, you can't raise. If you think the villian is particularly tight, or loose you should raise (for information, or value respectively).

It's 5-handed NL $25, lot's of people like any ace, certainly AQ is ahead of the standard range (even after a raise on the flop). You should call and be prepared to call down unless villain gets drastically outta line and the pot gets too outta control. Normally he'll have a worse ace and the pot will remain manageable.

[yourfather]

Thanks for the replies. I thought about raising but that balloons the pot and would basically commit me. His line looked like 2 pair or maybe a combo draw to me. I assume with 2 pair he stacks off on any turn and with a big draw he could have a ton of outs and may still stack off with alot of turns. Or he is just super aggro and bluffing.

[Kamawoop]

It was blind v blind.

Personally if I called a raise from the bil blind vs the small blind, I would expect you to bet most flops.

Most any ace would be within my range for calling blind vs blind in a 5-seat $25 game. I would then raise any ace if it hit.

[bjsaust]

My initial response was going to be that raising flop turns TPGK into a bluff, but thats not quite true. I'm just not sure that we're getting value from it enough times to make up for the times we are doing that.

[Kamawoop]

I'm gonna return to sitting on the fence. Given that you have no read, I'm really not sure there is a massive equity difference however you play this.

The best advice is to always have a read.

Without that, I would put this down as one of the rare occasions where I would be happy to call down.

[yourfather]

It was blind v blind.

Personally if I called a raise from the bil blind vs the small blind, I would expect you to bet most flops.

Most any ace would be within my range for calling blind vs blind in a 5-seat $25 game. I would then raise any ace if it hit.

I was on the button and he c/r it.

[bjsaust]

I def think call better than raise, but I think fold better than call. Fairly close though.

[Kamawoop]

Ooops.

Hmmmm.

I'd probally still be tempted to call down, but hmmm. Small blind raise is much stronger than either button vs bb; or sb vs bb.

Many people will (in my opinion, incorrectly) slower play super hands here. My guess is villain has JJ, it's a safe guess, as we will never know the answer.

[yourfather]

I'm not putting 1010+ in his range as I assume he would 3 bet that against a button raise most of the time. more like A9, A10, 109, draws.

[Kamawoop]

What i might do would be to call the flop and then bet the turn fairly small.

Hoping to keep control of the potsize.

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If you do this and the villian is good and the villian is ahead, then he/she will charge you anyhow. Often enough villain is bad and will let you off cheaply when you're behind.

[nutsinho]

What i might do would be to call the flop and then bet the turn fairly small.

Hoping to keep control of the potsize.

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If you do this and the villian is good and the villian is ahead, then he/she will charge you anyhow. Often enough villain is bad and will let you off cheaply when you're behind.

this will not work because we are in position without the initiative......