Thanks for the responses.

Quote Originally Posted by Mcatdog
I don't understand why you'd ever want to flat call a 4-bet out of position with JJ, not with 100 BB stacks anyway. Were you trapping him for a c-bet? I don't think your hand is quite strong enough for that, just go all-in now.

Looks to me like he had AK or maybe 4-bet light with Kx and your call of the 4-bet scared him, but when you checked again he put you on what you had and tried to value bet.
Well, I wasn't planning on him 4betting; if he shoves I probably call. I hate 3 bet/folding JJ in this spot and I also dislike 5betting for reasons fnord mentioned. I wasn't necessarily trapping but I'd feel more comfortable getting it in on a T-high flop than anything.

Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
Not the sort of guy I'm loving JJ with here.
Exactly what I was thinking. That said, I'm wondering what the correct play is here; 5 betting allin seems like too easy an answer. But if it really is the correct way to play it then OK. At what point does it make it an obvious all in/fold here? 15%/7% PFR?

I also feel our opponents are checking back 100% of flops though once that king hits, unless he does have AQ.