Quote Originally Posted by clarkatroid
if he got JJ plus then thats poker?
If he had JJ+ then he stacked you anyway so what difference does it make? What matters is what line induces him to bluff off his stack if he doesn't have you beat. You made the assumptions that he was likely to 3-barrel with a worse hand, but unlikely to 3-bet shove a worse hand on the flop. ISF is saying that your assumptions were probably incorrect. Also, we haven't even gotten into some of the other advantages that raising the flop has, for example it prevents him from turning an ace if he has one, and it balances your range which allows you to raise this flop to 200 with air in the future. So yeah I think that's probably the best line against most good LAGs who 3-bets a ton.

That being said, this hand obviously depends on how villain plays post-flop. If he's the type of guy to 3-barrel air, but never 3-bet-shove air, then just call him down I guess, and if he doesn't run big bluffs period then just call flop / fold turn.