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    Default FH facing river shove

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG+1 ($2.78)
    MP1 ($1.70)
    MP2 ($3.52)
    Hero ($1.97)
    CO ($5)
    Button ($4.91)
    SB ($2.96)
    BB ($1.21)
    UTG ($1.33)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K. CO posts a blind of $0.02.
    4 folds, Hero raises to $0.1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($0.24) 3, 5, 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.2, SB calls $0.20.

    Turn: ($0.64) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB calls $0.55.

    River: ($1.74) 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.11 (All-In), Hero ???

    overpairs are in his range, right? so i should call, right? (apologies if this seems so trivial)
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    Call without blinking.
    Villain's range is huge - but limited to those hands that would call a 4xbb raise pre-flop. Post-flop I guess all pairs 66+, 33, AQd, AJd maybe some suited connectors. There are only four hands you are scared of - AA, 5x, A4d, 46d. What 5x hand could villain hold to be calling your raise pre-flop - maybe 56s or54s but I doubt it. A4d or 46d is unlikely by the same reasong. So call - if you lose to quads or a straight flush then rebuy and get the chips back soon enough. For what it's worth, I put villain on 33.
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    insta call. it's gambling you've got a full house what are you waiting for, a straight flush which I assume he showed?
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    Thanks, I needed to hear it from other players. The guy turned over 54o for quads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miracleriver
    Thanks, I needed to hear it from other players. The guy turned over 54o for quads.
    that sucks. Happens. But anyone who calls a biggish pre-flop raise with 54o in the small blind is someone I want to be playing with. Well played.
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    as they say shiat happens. It's all aboot calculated risk and if you weren't prepared to take that one foget aboot it. A lot of times you'll call and the guy will turn over nothing AQ or AJ sometimes QQ or JJ. But with KK what can you do?
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    i don't mind the result ... so much ... ok, trying not to. anyway, i take comfort that this was a must-call situation.
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    at the 2NL level...dont ever fold this. hell, at 50NL i prolly wouldnt fold a boat...maybe higher.

    overboat is rarer than overset and overflush. when you hit your boat, dont be afraid to get the money in.
    LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

    Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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    Quote Originally Posted by miracleriver
    Thanks, I needed to hear it from other players. The guy turned over 54o for quads.
    sometimes he has it, a lot of the time he doesnt, so dont worry about paying the river.
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    yeah he had it then, but most of the time he is doing that with something like a 4, 3 or 2, possibly an over pair. you have to call.
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    I think I'm the only person on this site that ever considers folding to overbet river shoves at lower stakes.

    Seriously, to everyone who's suggesting that a small boat is doing this is just outside their damn minds.

    What types of hands at small stakes overbet shove the river?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    What types of hands at small stakes overbet shove the river?
    All sorts of muck. I could post some examples... top pair meh kicker on four cards to a straight and flush board, bottom straights on paired boards, bottom two on paired boards etc...
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    yeah, overbet river shoves at low limits is just about always the nuts. This sort of hands happens with suprising frequency at low levels, SB and BB will call with anything. I wouldn't be suprised to see A5 in his range here either. This is where all your profit comes from, reload and be patient.

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