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  1. #1

    Default fold a river boat, what you think

    Villan el Duivel is tight.

    he raised me in a previous hand and showed the nuts

    i dont think im beating him here, how bout you

    PokerStars Game #11746889832: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/28 - 20:37:19 (ET)
    Table 'Gudy II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: tripschaos ($214 in chips)
    Seat 2: Tenven ($117.85 in chips)
    Seat 3: mind4mind ($98.50 in chips)
    Seat 4: sddakoty ($21.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: clifflonglll ($18.70 in chips)
    Seat 6: ryguy227 ($75 in chips)
    Seat 7: el Duivel ($146.20 in chips)
    Seat 8: markkin ($69.45 in chips)
    el Duivel: posts small blind $0.50
    markkin: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to tripschaos [8d 8s]
    tripschaos: calls $1
    Tenven: folds
    mind4mind: folds
    sddakoty: folds
    clifflonglll: folds
    ryguy227: folds
    el Duivel: calls $0.50
    markkin: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Kd Jc Th]
    el Duivel: checks
    markkin: checks
    tripschaos: checks
    *** TURN *** [Kd Jc Th] [8c]
    el Duivel: bets $3
    markkin: raises $6 to $9
    tripschaos: calls $9
    el Duivel: calls $6
    *** RIVER *** [Kd Jc Th 8c] [Tc]
    el Duivel: checks
    markkin: checks
    tripschaos: bets $20
    el Duivel: raises $55 to $75
    markkin: folds
    tripschaos: folds
    el Duivel collected $67 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $70 | Rake $3
    Board [Kd Jc Th 8c Tc]
    Seat 1: tripschaos folded on the River
    Seat 2: Tenven folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: mind4mind folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: sddakoty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: clifflonglll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: ryguy227 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: el Duivel (small blind) collected ($67)
    Seat 8: markkin (big blind) folded on the River
  2. #2
    If you felt you were beat, you were beat. On this board, I'd trust the read. Could easily go either way (straight... or tens full). Hmm... now that I notice the river completed a flush draw, and villain is STILL raising... I think he's either flush / tens full with probability towards tens full. I mean, he's a nit, right?
  3. #3
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    Jack-high straight flush motherfucker
    I'm not folding here. KT/JT/9c7c beats you. That's three hands.

    Depending on villain, TT raises for value pf.
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  4. #4
    *Warning* I am a donkament player that will be switching to ring once I get my roll up. My advice might not be good here.


    With that said I think this is a call. You said opp was tight, but was he aggressive? If he is then he may be betting a FD on turn (Acxc). If he is passive he might have Q9 and flopped a straight trying to maximize value by slowplaying.

    This could also be AT, QT, T9, T8 (maybe).

    There are a lot of hands that complete here and have a line like this that makes this a call.
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    never ever ever ever ever fold here are you KIDDING
  6. #6
    If you folded I'm going to E-stab you. The real question is whether to push or not.
  7. #7
    I think the chance of him holding a flush are quite high. I don't think I fold this.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
  8. #8
    Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.
  9. #9

    Default Why ?

    Quote Originally Posted by djzcko
    Noooooooooooooooooooo! I never fold in this spot. There are too many hands that he could have that you beat (flush, str8). The only question I would ask myself is call or push. Never fold.
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  10. #10
    It's incorrect to fold. The only question is whether to raise or call.
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