Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
Quote Originally Posted by Grndr101
I usually like to see the turn, if you're reading your opponent right and put him on a draw then you can let him call a pot sized bet with his 45% chance of winning, if he makes his hand, then you can still bail and save some money. The main reason i like to do this is that i consider 45-55% to be a coinflip and if you keep getting in those situations your bankroll will take huge swings ( i kow what im saying i did it before ). If you opponent doesnt make his hand on the turn you can go all in with your monster and if he calls, then he'll be a huge underdog ( 70-30?) and most of the time hell even fold and never know if he made his hand on the river, and you will take down three times the pot size of what what was in on the flop.
This is exactly the concept I was proposing the question for. I believe that your reasoning is flawed, however. Did you check out the numbers I posted above? While calling and proceeding only if you hit/your opp didn't hit is profitable, due to the odds the pot is generally laying you, it is not often as profitable as moving in. As far as resultant BR fluncuations, I'd argue that part of being properly rolled is having enough to withstand these swings.
The thing is i like to have a much bigger advantage in lower limits (those i play mostly) instead of that 5% advantage you get from pushing, at the games i play people will take that gamble most of the time. Also i'd say my way of proceeding is more profitable if you are positive you can get your opponent to fold on the turn, because then you will win the hand ~25% more often since he only has the 25% chance of hitting his flush on the turn.
Basically you take from your opponent the chance away of hitting the river, and thus you improve your odds of winning(winning the hand i mean). In the games i play the pot is already huge when the turn comes and then or i get him to commit the rest of his stack as an underdog or he folds and loses a monster pot.
I just guess its a choice you have to make, i personally like my style because it allows me to have more winning sessions. And everybody likes to win