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 Originally Posted by Miffed22001
 Originally Posted by gingerwizard
 Originally Posted by Miffed22001
KJ is always a fold preflop in a raised pot unless it goes multiway and then you probably need it to be sooted and your not playing for tp!
KQ and AJ are raises for me in FR but then im happy getting away from them postflop and i have no intention of calling a reraise with them.
If were first into the pot, you have to open with these hands IMO. If we arent then they are auto muck's unless the pot is multiway and they are sooted, but we need to remember why we play them.
Thats really helpful cheers.
1 more thing. Opening with them: does this include UTG, even with KJo? Seems tight to fold, weak to call and dangerous to raise since we will be OOP in a raised pot with a vunerable hand.
When you play in bigger games, you'll find people will reraise you more often or just simply raise and not allow you to see flops oop. therfore we cant afford to limp hands in ep we arent going to play big pots with. So mucking KJs maybe weak, buts its right.
Sure, if you mucked in mp2 when folded to id call you weak and say thats wrong, but UTG, sure its weak but its best! 
Positional difficulties against half decent players will more than make up for mucking it preflop.
KJ is one of those 'pretty hands' it looks real cool, but only leads to bad situations postflop that you often cant get away from, that would be no brainers with AJ/AK/KQ type hands. Yah?
this will become more obvious when you play with players who will punish you for playing oop and arent calling your raises with trash like KTo and K8s and calling down with tp
(hope this makes sense?)
It certainly does thank you.
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