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  1. #1
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    Default two bluffs with the good ol 89s

    both opponents are relatively tight, not any meaningful history. ive been playing tight but not sure how much anyone notices.

    hand 1
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    Hero ($985)
    SB ($900.75)
    BB ($932)
    UTG ($1000)
    MP ($1158)
    CO ($1919.55)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 9.
    UTG calls $10, MP calls $10, CO raises to $60, Hero calls $60, 2 folds, UTG calls $50, MP folds.

    Flop: ($205) T, 2, 4 (3 players)
    UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

    Turn: ($205) 5 (3 players)
    UTG checks, CO bets $150, Hero calls $150, UTG raises to $350, CO folds, Hero calls $200.

    River: ($1055) 3 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $575 (All-In)

    hand 2:

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    UTG ($1253)
    MP ($1198.75)
    Hero ($3075.50)
    SB ($765)
    BB ($2425.75)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 9.
    2 folds, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, BB calls $20.

    Flop: ($65) 5, 9, 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB raises to $150, Hero calls $100.

    Turn: ($365) K (2 players)
    BB bets $250, Hero calls $250.

    River: ($865) 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $360
  2. #2
    1: Wondering why you didn't bet the flop in hand 1. What's with this guy limping UTG? You can't check so you pretty much have to take a shot at pushing him off his hand.

    2: He's calling with any low/mid diamond, raising any Q+ diamond and folding otherwise. But you beat everything else. I guess you don't want to show by checking behind?
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    What do you think UTG is reraising on the turn with in hand #1?

    Hand #2 I like, there's so much crap out there now that he has to be afraid of a push.


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    no idea what he was check raising with in hand 2, but he calls too much so i didnt want to push turn as bluff and get called by the nutflush draw. if i had as6s or something i might have pushed over his weird c/r.
  5. #5
    I like both. I'd probably bet the flop in the first hand but I understand your reason for checking. I also might bet a little more on river for hand 2 bc I think this is a good spot for bb to c/r bluff you.
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    Hand 1: Good

    Hand 2: I think you're good way too often to turn your hand into a bluff here. I don't like, especially the bet size. And like bdawg said he can c/r bluff your weakish river bet with a lot of hands.
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    they folded both
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    Don't you think if he folds in hand 2 you had him beat anyway?..
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    if hes bluffing flop with a mediocre diamond, he will always check the river and try to get a free showdown. he might have Td9 or something too.
  10. #10
    Hand 1: UTG probably had a set but got "screwed" on the river. Nice bluff

    Hand 2: i don't like this. If he has a diamond it's probably relatively high, and your hand has good showdown value if he doesn't have one.
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    On hand #1, why weren't you worried about a lone ace? or at those stakes and those lines it is highly unlikly?
  12. #12
    I don't like 1, just because your river bet is so small! ... he kinda has to have exactly 2 diamonds with no ace or air for this to work. I guess you can maybe not even beat air, so you have to bet.

    2... at least it seems like you are suck betting more with a big stack behind...

    Both these hands seem to require villian to make a big laydown; 1st more than a second (because at least you have somethin'... and maybe higher trips or baby flush folds... and maybe AK no diamond or AA calls you wierdly.)
  13. #13
    at first i didn't like hand 1. i think it looks like they missed the flush draw as well. i'm not sure why you chose to take the free card instead of betting the flop tho...??
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    sometimes i bet, sometimes i check
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    if I'm villain hand 2 convinces me more than hand 1 although the fun part of hand one is being able to bluff both of the flushes that can hit

    villain makes crying call in hand 2 with low flush?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    they folded both
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    yeah i c that now i just don t like reading threads if i m gonna reply to a post honestly
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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