I need to clear something up

[bigspenda73]

So I am calculating odds on a draw, any draw and I need to know which is the right way to do it.

Is it good cards/total cards unseen
or
good cards/bad cards.

For example, is a gut shot
4/47 after the flop
or
4/43

Which one is it guys, and an explanation along with it would be nice.
Thanks
'spenda

[TLR]

Depends on the format of the data you discuss.
If you want to calculate % to hit your cards it is good/unseen. 4/47=8.5% to hit
If you want to express it is a ratio is good:bad
4:43 means - 4 times you will improve to each 43 that you dont.
Those are two different ways to say the same thing

[bigspenda73]

Whichever helps me to determine odds then pots odds I would like. Which one out of the two should I compare to the odds i am laying from the pot. Thanks

[TLR]

I find it easy to work with %.

[cobere]

I prefer to work with ratios (odds). Gut shot draw is 4 good cards to 43 bad, so almost 11 to 1 against hitting it.

If the pot was $5 and your opp makes a weak bet of $0.50, you'd have pot odds to call it. Divide the $5.50 now in the pot by the $0.50 to call and you get 11.

I'm constantly doing this on the fly, dividing the pot by cost to call to come up with the pot odds. I think being able to do this, counting outs, and knowing your odds to hit are crucial skills to develop.

[KingLizard]

I prefer to work with ratios (odds). Gut shot draw is 4 good cards to 43 bad, so almost 11 to 1 against hitting it.

If the pot was $5 and your opp makes a weak bet of $0.50, you'd have pot odds to call it. Divide the $5.50 now in the pot by the $0.50 to call and you get 11.

I'm constantly doing this on the fly, dividing the pot by cost to call to come up with the pot odds. I think being able to do this, counting outs, and knowing your odds to hit are crucial skills to develop.

I, on the other hand, look at it as 4 outs x 2 = 8% + 1 = 9% ... and since the .50 call is 10% of the pot ... I make the call. Different strokes for different folks I guess.