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Home Game $5 Tourny: how bad is this call by opponent?

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  • Really, Really, Terrible. I would've started flipping out

    1 5.00%
  • Pretty bad, definately not good.

    1 5.00%
  • It was questionable

    5 25.00%
  • It was good, +EV play

    13 65.00%
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  1. #1

    Default Home Game $5 Tourny: how bad is this call by opponent?

    3 players left in 8 man $5 tournament home game. payouts are $30 for 1st, $10 for 2nd.

    I'm chip leader with $45, villian is next with about $25, and shorty has only about $10. Blinds are $.75/$1.50, i'm big blind. Villian is dealer and raises to $4.00 (standard raise). Shortie folds... i have A9, i reraise $10, not because it's a paticularly strong hand, because it's not, but because i know he'd be an idiot to want to put all his chips in on something he's unsure of. Well, he thinks about it and then pushes all in... I say fuck, but since there's already 35 in the pot and $15 to call, i call. He flips over 55, What the Hell is he thinking! And i lose the hand.

    How bad was this by the Villian?

    P.S. i end up winning the tourny anyway.
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    He may of had a read. Maybe he thought you were weak since you didn't push. He may have also factored in shorty and thought you might fold.

    I don't hate his play. Play for first.
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    Default Re: Home Game $5 Tourny: how bad is this call by opponent?

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    3 players left in 8 man $5 tournament home game. payouts are $30 for 1st, $10 for 2nd.
    How bad was this by the Villian?
    It's more complicated than that, three man pocket 5's are pretty good anyway. Also, he plays with you a lot I would assume... if he's a good player he could easily have a read on you, or maybe he had a good feeling about it. He's also used to your betting style which would greately influence his decision. I've gone with my gut and gotten paid off huge before. Either way I like his play in that spot, you coulda just been trying to steal, there's so many factors you'd have to write a half page just to cover the basics...
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    and, he didn't call, you did. both of your plays were fine. a lot of this depends on how the table was playing though.
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    It's usually a bad idea to get into a coinflip situation on the bubble with someone who can bust you. I don't think the player with the fives played the hand well at all, but if you really did "flip out" over it, that's pretty classless and defeats the purpose of a 5 dollar home game which is supposed to be just for fun.
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    I don't think he made that bad of a move.

    And you lost a race. May God have mercy on your soul.
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    It was a good push and a good call by you. I like to minraise in this spot because min raising will give you just as much information about an opponents hand as a 2.5X raise (like yours) would. BECAUSE, if he comes over the top, he generally has: PP or big Ace. Another way to play it would be to call, and see how aggressive he his postflop. It's easier to outplay a semi-strong hand postflop than it is to out play it preflop when everything is at stake and cards are turned over. In other words, play the player.
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    i would push 55 here all day
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    i push
    it's a home gome for $5 against people he knows
    i think if he folds there, he folds everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by BankItPayette
    I like to minraise in this spot because min raising will give you just as much information about an opponents hand as a 2.5X raise (like yours) would.
    And if opp has ANY brains at all he knows to call that min raise with excellent odds. You are making the mistake here, not him.
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    I like villain's play a lot more then hero's.

    If you are going to repop him, put him allin.
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    Okay, here's why i don't get why this is a +EV play. No matter what I have, he's at best 50/50. He could be also easily dominated.

    Why would you want to put all your money in on a guaranteed 50/50 when you've only invested $4.00, less than 1/6 of his stack?

    Also can this be moved to the Sit and Go Tourney Tactics forum? I think it's a little more fitting there.
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    He most likely has 55% to win. With only 3 people, over-pp is rare. Good push. Especially if he had a read that you might be trying to bully him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Why would you want to put all your money in on a guaranteed 50/50 when you've only invested $4.00, less than 1/6 of his stack?
    Well, you've answered your own question. If he knows the deal is 50/50 and he has to be $21 to win $50, then it's a no-brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    No matter what I have, he's at worst 55/45. I could be dominated. Or I could be raising weak and fold
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  16. #16
    I like his play. I also think he was hoping youd fold A9 there.
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    I see your guy's point.

    I just thought that the fact there is a $10 stack comes into play. If the shortie was $5 would my play be better?
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    It all depends on whether or not you think you can push him around.

    If its a $5 home game then

    a) He probably doesnt care about it all that much.
    b) He probably knows you, and knows you will try to push him around.
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