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  1. #1

    Default Should I have folded???

    Or bet the turn hard or should I check?

    The Villian has been caught bluffing once that I know of after only seeing him for two orbits.

    $25 NL
    Date Transaction User ID Amount Cards
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE justmoney $26.45
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE jm2241 $22.45
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE rob136 $24.55
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE RonsTLC $24.90
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE SwanDawg $10.10
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE miller23 $16.75
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE Jamesturn $15.35
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE ts21biker $9.25
    2005-10-21 10:47:00 TRANS_START_BALANCE helengr $12.95

    2005-10-21 10:47:00 POST SMALL BLIND jm2241 ($0.10)
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 POST BIG BLIND justmoney ($0.25)
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS justmoney $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS jm2241 $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS rob136 $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS RonsTLC $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS SwanDawg $0.00 Kc As
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS miller23 $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS Jamesturn $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS ts21biker $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:01 GETCARDS helengr $0.00


    2005-10-21 10:47:04 FOLD helengr $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:04 FOLD ts21biker $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:05 CALL Jamesturn ($0.25)
    2005-10-21 10:47:07 RAISE miller23 ($0.50)
    2005-10-21 10:47:11 RAISE SwanDawg ($0.75)
    2005-10-21 10:47:13 FOLD RonsTLC $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:16 CALL rob136 ($0.75)
    2005-10-21 10:47:16 FOLD jm2241 $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:17 FOLD justmoney $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:18 CALL Jamesturn ($0.50)
    2005-10-21 10:47:18 CALL miller23 ($0.25)


    2005-10-21 10:47:18 COMMUNITY_CARDS Ac Js Kd
    2005-10-21 10:47:22 CHECK Jamesturn $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:24 CHECK miller23 $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:31 BET SwanDawg ($4.00)
    2005-10-21 10:47:34 CALL rob136 ($4.00)
    2005-10-21 10:47:34 FOLD Jamesturn $0.00
    2005-10-21 10:47:38 FOLD miller23 $0.00


    2005-10-21 10:47:38 COMMUNITY_CARDS Jd

    What would you do next next? Hit it hard/check/check raise???

    SwanDawg
  2. #2
    What an abismal hand history. Clean that crap up.

    And as a general rule, don't min-raise preflop. It's weak and does not give you much of any information about your opps hand.
    Up my bankroll - buy Saints Row.
  3. #3
    This is the first time I've ever posted a hand. So what do you mean by cean it up? I can read it fine myself.

    How much should a raise be for? Three times isn't enough, should I go 5 to 8x?
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    Tbh it's no worse than a lot of HHs on here. I also can't use the converter as it doesn't support William Hill (and for some reason it ain't working with Pokerroom histories either).
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    dont worry about the hand history, just try to get it through the converter anyway.
    As for the hand id check raise here forcing opp to give away the strength of his hand or if its checked behind id value bet the river with two pair and probably fold to a raise. Of course if you fill up its time to bet a bit bigger...
  6. #6
    Took the delete button to it a bit, wrapped the cards in : so they show up as the pictures, and wrapped the hero's name in [ b ] [ /b ]. Doesn't take much to make it much more readable -
    justmoney $26.45
    jm2241 $22.45
    rob136 $24.55
    RonsTLC $24.90
    SwanDawg $10.10
    miller23 $16.75
    Jamesturn $15.35
    ts21biker $9.25
    helengr $12.95

    SB: jm2241 ($0.10)
    BB: justmoney ($0.25)
    Delt to SwanDawg :Kc: :As:

    FOLD helengr
    FOLD ts21biker
    CALL Jamesturn ($0.25)
    RAISE miller23 ($0.50)
    RAISE SwanDawg ($0.75)
    FOLD RonsTLC
    CALL rob136 ($0.75)
    FOLD jm2241
    FOLD justmoney
    CALL Jamesturn ($0.50)
    CALL miller23 ($0.25)

    Flop: :Ac: :Js: :Kd:
    CHECK Jamesturn
    CHECK miller23
    BET SwanDawg ($4.00)
    CALL rob136 ($4.00)
    FOLD Jamesturn
    FOLD miller23

    Turn: :Jd:
    Up my bankroll - buy Saints Row.
  7. #7
    Pre-flop, I like to use 3 times the raiser's amount as a baseline. So in this case, $1.50. It's likely folk'll only be calling that kind of strength with a weaker ace or a pocket pair worse then KK. That really limits the hands you'd be afraid of on the turn.
    Up my bankroll - buy Saints Row.

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