Quote Originally Posted by Triptanes
I hope you weren't making a joke...

cuz I don't get it
I'm sorry Trip.
I meant that, from my foggy recollection, the new player bonus from CON clears at 8x. Not funny at all, just a poor attempt by me to nicely say I disagree with the 10x figure. But you are right, it is 10x, not 8x or 20x.