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  1. #1

    Default Betting the flop after hitting your set?

    I won a nice pot here and was very pleased with my play in his hand. The reason for posting it is that I was first to bet on the flop after hitting my set and I would like to know what you think of this strategy in this hand? Would a check raise be better here?
    Also feel free to comment on other things I could have done better in the given situation.


    0.25/0.5$ NL 10 player
    Loose table, I had just sat down so no other read on players.

    Dealt to Borax in MP1

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    OpeningBetRound
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    SB : Posts small blind 0.25
    BB : Posts big blind 0.50
    UTG : Folds
    UTG+1 : Calls for 0.50
    UTG+2 : Calls for 0.50
    Borax : Calls for 0.50
    MP2 : Calls for 0.50
    MP3 : Folds
    CO : Calls for 0.50
    Button : Raises for 2.00
    SB : Calls for 1.75
    BB : Folds
    UTG+1 : Folds
    UTG+2 : Calls for 1.50
    Borax : Calls for 1.50
    MP2 : Calls for 1.50
    CO : Folds
    ------------------
    Flop

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    SB : Checks
    UTG+2 : Checks
    Borax : Bets 5.00
    MP2 : Folds
    Button : Calls for 5.00
    SB : Folds
    UTG+2 : Calls for 5.00
    ------------------
    Turn

    ------------------
    UTG+2 : Checks
    Borax : Bets 25.00
    Button : Went all-in 19.41
    UTG+2 : Calls for 25.00
    ------------------
    River

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    UTG+2 : Checks
    Borax : Went all-in 29.00
    UTG+2 : Went all-in 16.00
    Borax : Receives returned betting money 13.00
    ------------------
    Showdown
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    Borax
    - Three of a Kind - 7's
    Button
    - One Pair - A's
    UTG+2
    - Three of a Kind - 6's
    ------------------
    Result
    ------------------
    UTG+2 Showed Cards
    Borax Showed Cards (Winning) 124.91
    Button Showed Cards

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  2. #2
    Def. raise when there's flush draw.
  3. #3
    So you would check the flop?
  4. #4
    I'd have bet even more on the flop, with that many in someone must be on the draw(s), plus you figure someone has an A and will pay you off. Honestly I'm stunned the 66 didn't re raise.
  5. #5
    No, he's saying bet the flop harder. The pot was ... what, $10.50? A $5 bet makes a +EV call for someone with 2 diamonds. Bet there should be around $7-8 to drive out flush draws (and as a side effect, it'll definitely run out any OESDs running around).
  6. #6
    Good point, but with the Ace on the flop I was actually expecting a reraise after my quite early position half pot bet and I was hoping for an oportunity to reraise again/push to take a bigger pot. I wanted to signal some weakness or even that I was drawing myself to get that reraise. The flush draw is less likely with the A being one of the diamonds here I think, but of course still very possible. I was also surprised that the 666 didn't reraise which would be just what I was hoping for.
  7. #7
    I'm still trying to judge that perfect balance point between keeping people p(l)aying and not getting outdrawn.

    I'd have probably played it as you did but maybe as was suggested above a little more aggro on the flop due to the flush possibility.

    If I hit a set on the flop I'm praying it's rainbow and no connectors! Don't want much really...

    If either of those does appear I tend to bet big and try to take it down there - that may well be a result of playing at a level where people will call too much with too little right now though.

    Nice pot btw
    "nobody's ugly after 2 am" - bukowski
  8. #8
    You want to raise bigger on the flop to push out a flush draw, also if you bet into the original raiser here there's a good chance he'll come over the top if he's paired the ace and you'll take his stack.
    --
    TylerDurden
  9. #9
    Your 1/2 sized pot bet would have been perfect if there was only two other callers and you were in early position. But with 5 callers and a 10 dollar pot you want to bet the pot. There are too many people out there that might have a flush draw. With that many people there is a good chance that one of them might call your pot-sized bet or raise. You want to take down the pot quickly in this situation or make people pay to draw.
  10. #10
    Playing your sets fast disguises your hand and makes people pay more to draw against you. With straight/flush draws on the board or with multiple opponents I feel that in the long run you're better off forgetting about slow playing.
    TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
  11. #11
    Absolutely! Bet the pot in that case. I recently played a similar hand at a live game, but the flush draw wasn't there. I had pocket 7's and limped in with no preflop raisers. It was a rainbow flop with including a 7 to make my set, and a Q for the highest single card.

    Since there wasn't a flush or straight draw, I checked it. He bet about half the pot and I thought fer a bit then only called.

    Turn card was another low card not appearing to be of any help, so I checked again, he made a decent size bet; I thought about it then called.

    The river hit and again it was no apparent help... I checked & he bet, I put him all in & he immediately called.

    Turns out he was holdin AQs for top pair with Ace kicker.
  12. #12
    Two smooth calls and he calls the AI on the river? Silly.

    If that doesn't raise a red flag that your TPTK is stomped, what does?
  13. #13
    yea betting hard with flush draw on the flop is my play but very nice pot

    when u said loose table u meant it with AQo calling for whole stack
    Hoe-g-muh-ca-ca

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