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    OK since I figured I'm going to be psoting a lot of these hands for analysis for the next couple of months, I'll start a thread to save some space on FTR.

    Here's my first couple. I have no reads on these 2, both in my first orbit at the respective tables.


    Hand 1: Bet the turn? Anything else?

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    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6, 6.
    UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (4 SB) T, T, 2 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

    Turn: (3.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

    River: (3.50 BB) J (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG folds.

    Final Pot: 4.50 BB


    Hand 2: Bet the river? Anything else?

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    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
    Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: (6.50 SB) 7, 6, 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, BB calls.

    Turn: (4.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    River: (6.25 BB) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: 6.25 BB
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    Looks good here on both. Chances are on the second one you'll only be called by hands that will beat you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
    Looks good here on both. Chances are on the second one you'll only be called by hands that will beat you.
    Cool thanks. I did in fact have the second one won. The other guy had AQo :P
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    I bet the turn on the first one then check the river.
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    agree w gabe. the jack is dangerous. the 2 is not, unless you are checkraised, in which case you just fold.

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    Hand 1: You played the turn and river backwards.
    Hand 2: Standard
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    Hand 1: Maybe I'm paranoid, but correct fold preflOp?

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    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7, 7.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

    Flop: (10 SB) 6, 7, Q (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds.

    Turn: (6.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 bets, CO folds, SB calls.

    River: (8.50 BB) J (2 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 bets, SB raises, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: 11.50 BB


    Hand 2: Good betting?

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    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

    Flop: (9 SB) 4, 4, 9 (4 players)
    Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

    Turn: (5.50 BB) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

    River: (7.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: 8.50 BB


    Hand 3: Correct to slowplay here?

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    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8.
    2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

    Flop: (5.50 SB) 7, K, 8 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    Turn: (2.75 BB) 7 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

    River: (2.75 BB) Q (5 players)
    BB bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, BB folds, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 calls.

    Final Pot: 11.75 BB


    Hand 4: Good bet on turn or do I check?

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    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J.
    2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (4 SB) 6, A, 9 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

    Turn: (4 BB) A (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, SB folds.

    River: (7 BB) A (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP3 raises, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

    Final Pot: 11 BB


    Hand 5: 3 bet flop? Bet turn? CO = LAG/fishy

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    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K, K.
    2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: (8.50 SB) J, 3, J (4 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

    Turn: (7.25 BB) 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

    River: (7.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB folds.

    Final Pot: 9.25 BB
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    MHO is that I think you missed out on collecting more bets. Did you have any table reads to suggest that it's tight and that a flop bet would cause everyone to fold?

    Maybe check the flop (obviously, it depends on how many paying customers you are worried about scaring off if you bet); BUT in the games I play in, betting the flop is a must ... I'm just getting too many callers in that situation to pass up on betting the flop.

    IMHO, another reason to bet is that you're on the button, so other players might assume your play is just positional and call you with weaker holdings just for that reason alone.

    I'd come out and bet the turn. Any 4-flushes that have developed are gonna call you to see the river card. Also, I wouldn't want to miss out on an opportunity to collect Big Bets.

    Looks like the river card did complete some flushes given the action that ensued. So it looks like you did get paid off, but I wonder if you could have made a little more.
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    Hand 1: Cold Calling is Bad.

    Hand 2: As long as he folds you did good. I usually slow down on the turn if its not HU, but it was so okay.

    Hand 3: Never slow play, especially when you have the button here. You missed out on SO many bets on the flop and turn that the river cap didnt even make up for it. They will call, they wont expect you to have trips, its what they do. I only slow play against an aggressive player or if bet into.

    Hand 4: Good.

    Hand 5: Yes, Three bet the flop here. Most players with the J in this situation will raise you on the river. And yes bet the turn.


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    CO's raise on the flop could have been a free card play/attempt to slow you down. (But I guess it could have also been an indication that he's sitting on a J).

    Given that he checked the turn tells me that he was probably trying to slow you down. Depending on reads, I'd probably cap the flop, but that's a close call.

    The turn gives anyone with a 3 or J a made boat, so I'm not sure you can come out betting the turn. Remember the BB and CO both liked their hands enough on the flop to pay two SBs, and there aren't any str8 or flush draws to keep their interest.

    However, you do still have live outs to win and might already be ahead. To be honest, I'm not sure about the turn.

    Did CO have the J or 3? I'm guessing the 3 because he checked to you on the turn, and then only called your river bet.

    I'm assuming the BB has some mid to low pocket pair given his river fold.

    When your g00t and ready let us know the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

    Hand 5: Yes, Three bet the flop here. Most players with the J in this situation will raise you on the river. And yes bet the turn.
    Just out of curiosity, what's your reasoning behind betting the turn?

    I think capping the flop is the way to go as I mentioned in my post. Mostly because you just don't want to play your Ks weakly. I think it really depends on your reads for CO, but I'm almost always going to play my Ks agressively on the flop.

    Jeff, what's your reasons for capping the flop?
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    Hand 1: Need a read to call there. If you know other people are comming along for the ride or someone will go berzerk with anything on the flop you can call there, although I like to make that call from the CO/Button.
    Hand 2: Sucks to be out of position, that being said not a bad way to play it. Just expect 22 to call that river and scoop the pot now and then.
    Hand 3: How exactly does this win the max against opponents that call too much and slow play?
    Hand 4: Be glad Ax didn't pop the turn.
    Hand 5: Easy flop 3-bet vs LAgg, slow down when he caps the flop or pops the turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverMonkey

    Jeff, what's your reasons for capping the flop?
    First, its a three bet. If you are capped then you must slow down. With two on the board its very unlikely your opponent would raise you on the flop with his hand. I said he would raise the river, but i meant to say raise the turn. He is mostly likely raising for his free card, don't give it to him.


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    I wouldn't go so far as to say he's unlikely to raise a Jack here, although with a specific "opposite man" read that very well could be the case. It's just too early to think you're on 2 outs, hence the 3-bet is for value. Aren't you striving to be a TAgg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    OK since I figured I'm going to be psoting a lot of these hands for analysis for the next couple of months, I'll start a thread to save some space on FTR.

    Here's my first couple. I have no reads on these 2, both in my first orbit at the respective tables.


    Hand 1: Bet the turn? Anything else?

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    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6, 6.
    UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (4 SB) T, T, 2 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

    Turn: (3.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

    River: (3.50 BB) J (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG folds.

    Final Pot: 4.50 BB


    Hand 2: Bet the river? Anything else?

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    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
    Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: (6.50 SB) 7, 6, 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, BB calls.

    Turn: (4.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    River: (6.25 BB) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks.

    Final Pot: 6.25 BB

    I would bet the turn in hand 1 looking for a call (or even a raise) from a weak Ace. A weak Ace may raise to avoid a split pot. Happens lots. Also you bet may induce a fold from someone who might otherwise connect with 7,8,9, J for better 2 pair on the river. I don't think you want to give free cards here.


    Hand 2 - what Jeff said and other said
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    On your other hands (keep in mind I suck)

    1. My bad.. I might cold call at a loose table. For me it would depend on read on UTG+1.


    3. I would slowplay post-flop 1st two positions, but bet in last three. I think someone else noted, you have a great spot on the button to look like you are stealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    Hand 1: Maybe I'm paranoid, but correct fold preflOp?
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    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7, 7.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

    Flop: (10 SB) 6, 7, Q (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB calls, BB folds.

    Turn: (6.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 bets, CO folds, SB calls.

    River: (8.50 BB) J (2 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 bets, SB raises, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: 11.50 BB
    Without a read, would you guys 3bet this if MP1 opened instead of UTG? I have been mixing this play in with 77 and up and have had some success.
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    I think the only time I would 3-bet 77 pre-flop is with a maniac read or if a pre-flop aggro player raised from the CO and I was on the Button or Small blind. Then again, most players (even at Party 3/6) don't raise enough pre-flop.
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    yeah, i'm not down for 3 betting 77 either


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    Slowplay bad

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    Preflop: Fnord is MP3 with 3, 3.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Fnord calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (7 SB) 7, 5, 5 (7 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Fnord checks, CO checks, Button checks.

    Turn: (3.50 BB) 3 (7 players)
    SB checks, BB bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 folds, Fnord calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Fnord caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

    River: (15.50 BB) A (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

    Final Pot: 17.50 BB

    Results in white below:
    BB has 6s 5h (three of a kind, fives).
    Fnord has 3s 3c (full house, threes full of fives).
    Outcome: Fnord wins 17.50 BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
    Did CO have the J or 3? I'm guessing the 3 because he checked to you on the turn, and then only called your river bet.
    My kings were good.

    Hero shows [ K, K ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
    CO doesn't show [ A, 4 ] two pairs, jacks and threes.
    Hero wins $8.75 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks.
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    That reminded me of Marcel Luske's "Kings are good" comment. ... **chuckle**.

    He raised you on the flop and called your river bet with A4o ... wow, we gave him WAY too much credit in our analysis. I never stop being amazed at just how poor some players are.
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    I won't repeat hand numbers now, so you don't get confused.


    Hand 6: What have I done wrong here? No reads, first orbit at table

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    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, J. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
    4 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

    Flop: (4 SB) 7, 4, 3 (4 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, CO raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

    Turn: (5 BB) 6 (3 players)
    SB bets, Hero folds, CO folds.

    Final Pot: 6 BB


    Hand 7: Do I bet this flop when it's checked to me? BB and UTG+2 are both Loose-Passive

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    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A.
    UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

    Flop: (12.50 SB) Q, 3, 8 (6 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds.

    Turn: (7.75 BB) A (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 folds.

    River: (9.75 BB) 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

    Final Pot: 11.75 BB


    Hand 8: No more Mr. Slowplay! This better than the trip 8s hand? No reads here

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    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9.
    3 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (3 SB) 4, A, 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets, BB folds, MP2 calls.

    Turn: (2.50 BB) K (2 players)
    Hero bets, MP2 folds.

    Final Pot: 3.50 BB
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    6 and 7: Good.

    8: Too few opponents in the hand to effectively play this hand from the small blind. Flopping the flush you never want to slow play unless its a nut flush. You don't want to give opponents with higher kickers than yours have a chance to draw out on you for cheap, so make them pay.


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    Hand 6: I wouldn't blame you for just folding to the flop raise + cold call. Do you really want to fight this one out in a nothing pot with a pair of 7s?
    Hand 7: You could make a case for just calling pre-flop. I would just take my free turn card, particularly with higher stakes loose games as the fish there will frequently check/raise the PFR on the flop with Qx. I've been playing hands like this in loose games in such a way as to maximize the cost of my opponent's mistakes and tendencies. Consider that you're making a flop bet that they really should call and they could be making a huge mistake by letting you draw to your 3-6 outs for free.
    Hand 8: Exactly. Probably 1sb more than you would have gotten slow playing.
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    dwarfy... hand 1 (folding 77)... that's fine.

    but hand 3, omg, this makes me sick to my stomach. shame on you. bad dwarf, bad, bad!

    you are on the button for god's sake. everyone is expecting you to bet in that position, even with ace high. anyone with bottom pair will call if you bet. or top pair no kicker. or ace high. come on, what are you afraid of? you have 4 opponents, you can afford to lose 1-2. furthermore, had you bet the flop, you could have also bet the turn b/c everyone would assume you had a K or 8, not trip 7's.

    slowplaying is a bad bad thing at the $0.50/$1 level. there's no need for tricks against loose idiots. they make enough of their own mistakes. although you turned a lucky card here, slowplaying will get you in a whole lot of trouble if you make it a habit.

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    Good example of why slowplaying is simply not necessary at a loose table. Similar to Hand 8.

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    Preflop: ChezJ is BB with K, 2.
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, ChezJ checks.

    Flop: (5.50 SB) 7, 8, 6 (6 players)
    ChezJ bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

    Turn: (4.25 BB) 5 (4 players)
    ChezJ bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

    River: (7.25 BB) 3 (4 players)
    ChezJ bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, ChezJ 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

    Final Pot: 13.25 BB

    Results in white below:
    ChezJ has Ks 2s (flush, king high).
    UTG+1 doesn't show.
    CO has 3h 8h (two pair, eights and threes).
    Outcome: ChezJ wins 13.25 BB.
    >> Idiot didn't even have a str8!! <<


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    Hand 9: Okay to slow down on the turn here since the flop was capped? Good bet on river when he slows down? I figured him to have missed his flush draw here. No read on the guy, only second orbit.

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    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
    UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO (poster) calls, 3 folds, UTG calls.

    Flop: (8 SB) 8, 3, K (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets, CO calls, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

    Turn: (10 BB) 7 (3 players)
    UTG bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

    River: (13 BB) 6 (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets, CO folds, UTG calls.

    Final Pot: 15 BB
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    Hand 9: It looks to me like UTG hit two pair on the flop, or he's betting on the come with a spade 4-flush.

    Given the river action, it was probably the latter.
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    I'd pop it once on the turn, make the CO call more bets cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I'd pop it once on the turn, make the CO call more bets cold.
    This was the right move, I like it.

    UTG mucked T 8 here.

    Thanks Fnord.
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    i would not put him on 2pr unless he was one of the blinds. but he is UTG. granted, fish play anything UTG at this level, but you have to figure that someone who is smart enough to checkraise the pre flop raiser is also smart enough not play K8 in first position.

    my guess was that UTG limped in with AKo. the other possibility is a set (88/33). either way i would probably raise the turn and go for the free showdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I'd pop it once on the turn, make the CO call more bets cold.
    UTG mucked T 8 here.
    checkraising, capping, and ramming on the come to a non-nut flush... wow. lucky you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChezJ
    checkraising, capping, and ramming on the come to a non-nut flush... wow. lucky you!
    I'd jam it too with a flush draw and a pair.
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    ah didn't see the pair. my bad.
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    BB per day so far:

    Code:
    Date       Start	      End	       BB's
    13-Mar	 $300.27 	 $303.77 	3.5 
    14-Mar	 $303.77 	 $318.77 	15.0 
    15-Mar	 $318.77 	 $322.27 	3.5 
    16-Mar	 $322.27 	 $333.02 	10.8 
    17-Mar	 $333.02 	 $306.27 	-26.8
    Isn't it fun when you lose 26.8 BB in the same amount of minutes....
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    hard to judge w/o knowing how many hours each session represents. 10 minutes? 10 hours?
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    Hand 10: Ahem, this was me being a retard, I believe. And sucking out :P

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    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
    Hero raises, 6 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

    Flop: (5 SB) 2, Q, T (2 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls.

    Turn: (3.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets, Hero calls.

    River: (5.50 BB) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

    Final Pot: 7.50 BB


    Hand 11: Do anything on the flop here? Raise preflop?

    Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7, 7.
    UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

    Flop: (5.50 SB) 3, 4, Q (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds.

    Turn: (3.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
    UTG bets, Button calls.

    River: (5.75 BB) K (2 players)
    UTG bets, Button folds.

    Final Pot: 6.75 BB


    The following hands came directly after one another on the same table, it was a crazy 3 minutes!

    Hand 12: G00t fold on the flop?

    Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, Q.
    UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG caps, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, BB calls.

    Flop: (17.50 SB) 4, 7, 9 (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero folds.

    Turn: (9.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
    UTG bets, Button calls.

    River: (11.75 BB) J (2 players)
    UTG bets, Button calls.

    Final Pot: 13.75 BB


    Hand 13: Seems pretty standard to me, do I go for a sneaky check-raise on the flop?

    Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, A.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: (8.50 SB) 4, Q, T (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

    Turn: (5.75 BB) 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

    River: (7.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.

    Final Pot: 8.75 BB


    Hand 14: The biggest pot I have ever won in limit to date. Good to cap my draw on the flop here? Results shown, so you can see the size of the pot!

    Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T, A.
    UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: (5 SB) Q, J, 4 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, UTG calls.

    Turn: (8.50 BB) 9 (3 players)
    UTG bets, Hero raises, Button calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, UTG calls.

    River: (20.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
    UTG bets, Hero raises, Button calls, UTG 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, UTG calls.

    Final Pot: 32.50 BB

    Results NOT in white below:
    UTG has Qh 8h (flush, queen high).
    Hero has Th Ah (flush, ace high).
    Button has Qd Qc (three of a kind, queens).
    Outcome: Hero wins 32.50 BB.
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    Nobody around to critisice this latest bunch?

    Shame on you! :P
  40. #40
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    Hand 1: Raise the Flop. You'll see people betting Into you that are trying to get you to fold here. Plus, you have two overs, a gutshot, and a backdoor flush. Thats 11.5 outs man, raise it up.

    Hand 2: Raise preflop, fold the flop.

    Hand 3: You could fold to the preflop cap here, very likely you are very dominated. Also, on the flop, with you being last to act, the pot is big enough you can call (you were getting 19-1 here to call).

    Hand 4: I like it. Not only did you have the nut flush draw, you had a gutshot and an over card. Technically, thats 16 outs. I'd cap it anyday. Nice pot.


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    Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 6.
    UTG calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

    Flop: (24 SB) T, 4, 2 (6 players)
    Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

    Turn: (24 BB) 8 (6 players)
    Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

    River: (34 BB) 7 (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds.

    Final Pot: 36 BB

    Results in white below:
    UTG has 4d 4c (three of a kind, fours).
    CO has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
    Outcome: UTG wins 36 BB.


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    Hand 11: You missed your set on the flop. The pot is a mere 6.5 SB. The odds against catching your 2-outer on the turn are 22:1 against. You must fold here. Chasing a set past the flop is a huge leak.

    Hand 12: You probably shouldn't coldcall two more pre-flop raises with AQo. Once you do, though, you are pretty much committed to play the hand to the turn because the pot is so huge. Folding the flop was a mistake.

    Hand 13: You were the pre-flop raiser, so you could not possibly checkraise the flop. Everyone was checking to you and would have gladly taken a freebie if you checked through.

    Hand 14: Of course you cap this. Not doing so is leaving money on the table. You are a 54% favorite to catch the winning hand by the river, and every bet or raise you make is multiplied by four!

    ChezJ
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    Hand 10: Standard
    Hand 11: Standard
    Hand 12: Fold pre-flop when it's 2 back to you.
    Hand 13: Standard
    Hand 14: Raise pre-flop
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    OK I've been slacking off posting hands here, and I have a grand total of 12 for review! I will post them later when I have had my nap time.

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