calculating pot odds

[denouement]

Hi everyone...I have a vague understanding of pot odds, but still have a few questions about just how you figure them out.

Assume after the flop for instance there is 100 in the pot and a player in front of you bets another 100. Obviously, this makes your pot odds 2 to 1. Assuming you raise another 100, that makes your pot odds 2 to 2 (am i right so far?). Now let's say a person behind you re-raises another 100 dollars, and the first player who bet in front of you folds. Now are your pot odds for a call 4 to 3, in which case the 4 is coming from what was in the pot plus the players bet and the other players raise (100 + 100 +200) and the 3 is coming from my raise and my call (200 + 1)? Or are they 6 to 1, in which case I'm incorporating my initial raise into the size of the pot I'm playing for. What I mean to say is should I no longer consider my intial raise MY money and instead treat it as money that's already in the pot that I'm trying to win. Thanks for your help, hope I made this clear.

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[JeffreyGB]

I'm not sure you answered his question Rippy.

I'll try: Yes, you'd include your previous bet in the calculations for the current pot. So you'd actually be getting better odds to call this time around than last time.

Note: This is also why most intelligent players won't minbet preflop - everyone is getting the same or better odds to call the raise, so your minraise doesn't weed anyone out, and even if it gets more money in the pot, so does making a decent sized raise, where you only need one or two callers to give you the same profit and where you'll have a better chance of winning the hand.

- Jeffrey

(Sorry about the minraise rant I threw in...it's just been getting on my nerves the last few days)

[denouement]

Thanks, you answered that really well.....you make a great point about the minraises...I'm not a great player but that did occur to me early on when I started to play...nice to know I'm not the only one thinking that.

[Demiparadigm]

6:1

Once the money's in the middle it is no longer yours.

HOWEVER Never throw good money after bad. Especially in a tournament, if you think you are beat, throw the hand away.

Often you are drawing to a second best hand, in which case you'd go broke when you should have laid it down on the flop.