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First $50NL hand question - did I play correctly? KK vs ??

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  1. #1

    Default First $50NL hand question - did I play correctly? KK vs ??

    I think I misplayed my pocket kings. First of all, I think I should have pre-flop raised more because people with pocket pairs will still call in hopes of cracking me. This was about my 4th hand in at this table so I had no reads. Usually I dont have reads anyways..

    I figured he was on some face cards or a small pocket pair because he simply called preflop. His raise scared me, but I figured that thats what I would do with TPTK. If he flopped the flush I think he might have just called (hopefully).

    I know that some people would say that by moving allin I am only gonna get called by better hands.
    But Ive also heard people say that they moved allin to really put his faith in his hand to the test.
    I figured my kings were enough to push with, given the chance he would fold. I wasnt sensing much strength so I figured Id make a move.

    I think it was a bad play looking back. The board just wasnt push friendly.

    What do you think?


    ***** Hand History for Game 1692644810 *****
    $50 NL Hold'em - Sunday, March 06, 01:36:16 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36881 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 10
    Seat 1: ktulu7 ( $47.25 )
    Seat 2: Shelli35333 ( $66.6 )
    Seat 4: nouveauPanda ( $58.1 )
    Seat 5: wolve050173 ( $32.97 )
    Seat 6: lil_radish ( $22.75 )
    Seat 7: Chance7711 ( $41.85 )
    Seat 8: timmy_wd40 ( $19 )
    Seat 9: Tritonian ( $28 )
    Seat 10: Yoiaholic ( $41.2 )
    Seat 3: SlappYou ( $49.25 )
    lil_radish posts small blind [$0.25].
    Chance7711 posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SlappYou [ Kd Kh ]
    timmy_wd40 folds.
    Tritonian folds.
    Yoiaholic folds.
    ktulu7 folds.
    Shelli35333 folds.
    >You have options at Table 37425 Table!.
    SlappYou raises [$2].
    >You have options at Table 37281 Table!.
    nouveauPanda calls [$2].
    wolve050173 calls [$2].
    lil_radish folds.
    Chance7711 folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, Jc, 2c ]
    SlappYou bets [$6].
    nouveauPanda folds.
    wolve050173 raises [$12].
    >You have options at Table 37281 Table!.
    SlappYou is all-In [$41.25]
    wolve050173 is all-In [$18.97]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
    wolve050173 shows [ Jh, Kc ] two pairs, queens and jacks.
    SlappYou shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.
    SlappYou wins $16.28 from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and queens.
    SlappYou wins $65.69 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.
  2. #2

    Default Re: First $50NL hand question - did I play correctly? KK vs

    Quote Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
    I know that some people would say that by moving allin I am only gonna get called by better hands.
    Apparently not, eh? You'll get called by AQ and sometimes AJ in addition to (?!?!) KJ

    (with the Ac I might've gone ahead the way he did. Maybe)
  3. #3
    I like the preflop raise. You'd like to get one or two callers, and the table has folded to you. Standard 4xbb raise seems perfect.

    I could go either way on the flop push. Really the only thing you're worried about is someone who stayed in with high clubs (or as you said, a pocket pair). I'm too lazy to calculate, but I'd expect that chances are equally good for someone to have a lessor hand and call as opposed to having one of the rare hands that beats you.
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  4. #4
    Yea, I guess that if half the time I was up against a better hand then pushing would be a very bad idea..I dont think many people would call a bet like that without having one pair beat. On the other hand, if I didnt push then I could extract more from lesser hands that would usually fold if I simply pushed.

    And I admit that I have pushed because I wanted to avoid those difficult decisions that come further down the board...

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