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  1. #1

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    ***** Hand History for Game 1671218035 *****
    $50 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, March 02, 00:11:52 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36572 (Real Money)
    Seat 10 is the button
    Total number of players : 9
    Seat 2: duty900g ( $149.2 )
    Seat 6: sejje ( $39.75 )
    Seat 10: MrMxyztplk ( $54.35 )
    Seat 4: Finite_Risk ( $49.25 )
    Seat 7: ncsuece ( $67.8 )
    Seat 3: jfriesen ( $24.55 )
    Seat 8: abbs12 ( $82.4 )
    Seat 1: mlperry ( $36.7 )
    Seat 5: Bigtoe216 ( $56.05 )
    mlperry posts small blind [$0.25].
    duty900g posts big blind [$0.5].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to sejje [ Qh Ks ]
    jfriesen folds.
    Finite_Risk calls [$0.5].
    Bigtoe216 folds.
    sejje raises [$2].
    ncsuece folds.
    abbs12 folds.
    MrMxyztplk folds.
    mlperry calls [$1.75].
    duty900g folds.
    Finite_Risk folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 6h, 6c ]
    mlperry checks.
    sejje bets [$4].
    mlperry calls [$4].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
    mlperry checks.
    sejje bets [$6].
    mlperry calls [$6].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
    mlperry is all-In.
    sejje calls [$24.7].


    Was I obviously beat? I see that there are a lot of hands that beat me. A six, a backdoor straight, AQ, and the list goes on.

    Should I fold that river bet? Do I bet more than the pot on the flop?





    mlperry shows [ Qs, 9h ] two pairs, queens and nines.
    sejje shows [ Qh, Ks ] two pairs, queens and sixes.
    mlperry wins $71.4 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and nines.
  2. #2
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    I cannot believe that idiot called a raise with a Q 9...

    That being said, your river betting was fine. It was your preflop play that worries me a bit. You're in early to middle position and QK doesn't stand up that well in NL. I'd limp with this and see the flop. It will bite you in the ass less often that way. Otherwise, folding it in early position isn't a bad call either.

    By raising, assumedly, you will kick out all other hands except those that totally own you: AK, AQ, AA, KK, QQ...

    Once you saw the board, your face should have lit up. I like your flop bet since you were the preflop raiser; it made it look as though perhaps you were trying to buy the board with AK or something. However, with teh smooth call, I would have slowed down a bit on the turn. Bet a little bit smalelr and see if he raises you, 'cause he could very well be owning you with any of hte hands stated above.

    Congrats on the win!
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    I cannot believe that idiot called a raise with a Q 9
    Bad dog!

    Baaaad dog!

    -'rilla
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    Congrats on the win!
    I lost. But thanks!
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    I agree about limping KQo. For that to merit a raise from me, it needs to be suited.

    He didn't have it, but his play certainly shows the proclivity to make an equally bizarre play: the straight showing. I'd have to think long and hard calling an all in with top pair + a board pair when the straight card showed up. Despite the unlikelihood, giving opponent's too much credit for logical play and calling bets like that has turned into a big leak for me, so I'm working on not doing it.

    Make a note about this guy though, both for the Q9 preflop call and the flop call with a bad kicker.
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    Definately note this guy. Slow playing two pair on the turn with a paired board. Next time knock him in the dirt and take his lunch money.
    Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sejmeister
    Congrats on the win!
    I lost. But thanks!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    I found this funny.

    I found this a good rule of thumb, by the river TPGK is usually no good with an all in bet in front of you. Pick a better spot to go in, there are so many hands that beat you here. Wait for a better hand (nuts near nuts) and learn to divorce TPTK with a big bet in front of you.

    *punches moron for calling with Q9*

    It wasn't even s00ted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptanes
    I found this a good rule of thumb, by the river TPGK is usually no good with an all in bet in front of you.
    Agreed. Maybe one time in ten it'll be a bluff, but the other 9 times you're beat and flushing money down the crapper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sejmeister
    Congrats on the win!
    I lost. But thanks!
    whoops...didn't see two pair, queens and nines. Thought you'd outkicked him.
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    Dont raise with KQ offsuit, limp in. His cold calling should have puzzled you...


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