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    Default Gross spot 5/5 mix 550bb Deep, flop all in Decison with AA in 5bet Pot in the SB

    Sorry about the earlier posts without full details on player types and all. Was really wanting a vacum play reponse and got the answers I needed.

    Same game, Banker types and bookies Deep 5/5 NLH and PLO mix game.

    There are usually straddles to at least 10, single straddle. Starting stacks are 1000. Went KK vs AA earlier on lost coz I raise utg and 4b/call for 1.5X raise getting 3-1 to Btns slowplayed AA, and later lost to a donk/spewtard when i 4b KdKs6s7d Bb vs Sb and he called it off for 500 more with effective stacks of 1100 with Qs2s2d3s.

    Was in for 6k and had 3300 at the start of the hand. This hand happened in the last orbit with 5 hands to go. I was dealt AcAdJcQd UTG and was the first straddler and UTG+1 super straddled to 20. 7 started the hand and 4 ppl called back to me. UTG+1 is learning the game at a fast rate and a big winner on the Enet networks Omaha tables. Live he is mostly nitty but opens up hsi game in PLO coz he thinks he has an edge over most players there. He started the hand with nearly the exact amount i did. I flat the straddle pretty sure he would raise and he did and got called in 4 spots. ACtion back to me and I pot his 125 bet to 650 on top. He calls and Btn calls. Btn is a laggy maniacish player with 60-70% know how or proffieciency in the game but he is in for 16 and doesnt mind gambling at all.

    Flop $2650

    9c 8d 4s

    I bet 950 with the intention of bet calling for value and because I know they know i have aces and will spaz out in these spots. I think the board most likely hit the UTG+1 pretty well but the BTn not so much.

    UTG+1 pots it for 1850 more which is 90 more than i have and I expected it and wouldnt be happy calling it off but was prepared to. BTN thinks for 3 mins or so and cold calls 2750 but doesnt look to happy about it.

    I have to call 1850 into 9100ish. I expect the UTG+1 player to have two pairs or on the offchancejust one, along with a some sort of straight draw. I dont think the BTn has a set that often but at the least he has a hand as strong as UTG.

    Whats the best move in this spot?
    Do I always have enough equity over here to call?
    Is my flop sizing good if I am comfortable getting it against one of them but not two of them, esp since the BTN is willing to take risks?
    What the best play in a vacum without reads?

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by shakesss; 10-17-2012 at 08:19 PM.
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    You have to call at this point. The two back door flush draws are huge for your equity. You are getting 4:1 and worst case you have 30% equity.

    Flop I would bet a little bigger, makes it easier to call and would discourage somebody from floating.

    I would probably pot pre when the action is to you. If everyone calls, the pot is more manageable and this is a fine hand to take vs multiple players, although being OOP sucks. If this dude 3bet you pre you could basically 4b shove and have an easier decision post.
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    I was curious so I ran some numbers, the BD FDs give us a little less than 3% more equity.

    the worst case I found was 99** and KQJT, and you still have 14%.

    So i pretty much agree with swigg, and I just cram it on flop. if they fold 9766 that's great. It seems very unlikely someone is just going to randomly spazz with QQxx or something on this board so I don't want to make a play based on that hope.

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