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4NL - AKo facing all in 3bet preflop

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  1. 07-16-2012 01:20 PM #1
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    Default 4NL - AKo facing all in 3bet preflop

    The villain is unknown.

    Cake Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.04 BB (8 handed) - Cake-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 ($1.30)
    CO ($4.13)
    Button ($4)
    SB ($4.07)
    BB ($1.42)
    Hero (UTG) ($4.03)
    UTG+1 ($3.48)
    MP1 ($2.36)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K
    Hero bets $0.16, UTG+1 calls $0.16, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1.30 (All-In), Hero?
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  2. 07-16-2012 01:51 PM #2
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    all of the chips.

    ALL OF THEM
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  3. 07-16-2012 02:02 PM #3
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    I'm giving this a customary 2 seconds so it's not a snap call. Then I'm calling as fast as possible.
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  4. 07-16-2012 02:09 PM #4
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    not a snap call...ALL THE CHIPS
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    why wait 2s here?

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    ongies gonna ong
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    because my life is precious and i don't enjoy wasting 2s needlessly or in that 2s you could dc and be fucked out of your equity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    because my life is precious and i don't enjoy wasting 2s needlessly
    How long did it take to type that out?
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    Any time spent berating ongabonga for the things he says is time well spent.
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  10. 07-16-2012 11:49 PM #10
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    lol that was quite unanimous! So, AK is always all in preflop if there is a shove?
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  11. 07-17-2012 02:20 AM #11
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  12. 07-17-2012 02:59 AM #12
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    other than for nits ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick007 View Post
    other than for nits ..
    haha...first time I've been called that

    Instead of giving yourself a whole bunch of rules, i.e.
    Quote Originally Posted by maverick007 View Post
    So, AK is always all in preflop if there is a shove?
    and whatever others that you can come up with - try to think about WHY you are making the play that you're planning to make.

    "Always" includes a lot of things:
    So, if you know that your opponent is ONLY going to pf shove with KK+ would you still call with AKo?
    If you're playing deepstacks would you call a pf shove with AKo?

    In this hand that you posted: even though the villain is unknown, you still have some info about him that makes a re-shove correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick007 View Post
    lol that was quite unanimous! So, AK is always all in preflop if there is a shove?
    At these stakes, nearly always. I mean if you have some guy running at 10/8 and he's 3bet shoving 2% over a sample of 400+ then you can go ahead and fold, but this is a short stack with little over 30bb, he can have Ax 22+ and sometimes crap like 89s or whatever.
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  16. 07-18-2012 11:50 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick007 View Post
    lol that was quite unanimous! So, AK is always all in preflop if there is a shove?
    NO! God no. It's often a fold just facing a normal-sized 3b.
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