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    Default FD on Flop versus Donk-Bet

    Is this simply a pot-odds decision? or is there a better line than calling?

    SB - 21/21/0 over 29 hands
    UTG - 23/15/20 over 13 hands

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    UTG ($2.43)
    MP ($0.87)
    CO ($0.86)
    Hero (Button) ($5.10)
    SB ($1.75)
    BB ($1.60)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, J
    UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.32) 2, 2, Q (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG bets $0.23, Hero ???
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    aye aye, Cap'n.

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    don't want no tutti-frutti, no lollipop
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    shove every turn but a 2

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    Until I stoved this I really didn't like it, but now I do and my game has changed because of it.

    Effectively, a flush draw and an over gives you a shit ton of equity, throw in a little fold equity and it's a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    ... it's a no brainer.
    unfortunately, i haz no brane

    care to break it down for me?

    go on. you know you want to...after all, i've just inadvertantly improved your game
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    We have something like 42% equity vs. his range, which probably includes a couple of flush draws himself plus some Qx with kicker problems that he might fold. So with dead money in the pot if he folds a tiny portion of his range we have a pretty profitable raise.


    Board: Qh 2h 2d
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 41.921% 41.74% 00.19% 18180 81.00 { KhJh }
    Hand 1: 58.079% 57.89% 00.19% 25218 81.00 { TT-99, 22, AQs, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, KQs, Q9s+, Th9h, KQo, QJo }
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    i personally would have raised flop looking to get to see the river for free. but after it has been mentioned, i dont mind raising flop and jamming a ton of turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    plan if villain 3bets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    We have something like 42% equity vs. his range...
    Thanks baudib - but what about SB? do we have to take him into account?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
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    shove every turn but a 2
    could you (or anyone else) please explain the reasoning behind this a little more in depth? This is just the sort of aggressive line that I'm trying to come to a better understanding of
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