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    Default Blind Range vs bu/co steal

    I'm stuck on the worst new year vacation ever, plus I'm sick. But, I found a pokerstove like program on my iPhone and thought I would work on my blind range.

    Yes I know that your blind range is dynamic based on many factors but I need to have a basic framework from which I adjust based on table/player conditions.

    This not my current default range but one that I think I want to implement but wan help on adding subtracting hands.

    Total blind range:18.3%
    Axs+,Kxs+,66+, anybroadway minus JTo, QTo and QJo.

    3-bet value: 2.6%
    AK,QQ+

    3-bet light: 4.8%
    A2s-A9s, K2s-K9s

    Flagging range: 10.9%
    Everything else.

    My problem is that I'm decent in knowing when to NOT 3 bet light vs nit but less good in adjusting when some is opening 45%.

    Is J9s better to flat or to 3 bet? I know this depends heavily on there 4 bet frequency and fold to 3 bet. But I'm just looking for a broader frame work. I want to work on my default ranges as well.

    I have had good success with the above range vs full stack unknows , but I know there are tons of hands that can be added that are +ev.

    Any suggestions appreciated. Also when 3 betting for value how much additional equity does my hand requires vs a similarly skilled a opponent who has position.

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    Basic observation my flatting range does very well vs 40% open range when the flop comes T, J, or Q high. Something like 57% equity, but on a flop of 5 and lower we are basically even.

    More thoughts to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    , but on a flop of 5 and lower we are basically even.
    What is a flop of 5 or lower ?
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    Like 543 or 523.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    Like 543 or 523.
    Care to guess how often those happen?
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    Sub 5% I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Luck View Post
    Sub 5% I guess.
    Well since I feel like working it out and it won't take but a moment, let's find out the chance of the flop coming 5-high, 4-high, 3-high or 2-high (ie: 222). The chance of no A-6 coming on the first card is (16/52), on the second card is (15/51), and on the third card is (14/50), for a total chance of 2.53%.

    Comparably, the chance of an Ace-high flop is about 21.7%, and the chance of a K-high flop is about 18.3%.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 01-05-2011 at 08:10 PM.
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    Okay I found a notebook where I worked them out so I wouldn't have to work them out again, so here are the values for X-high flops: Q-high 15.2%, J-high 12.4%, T-high 9.9%, 9-high 7.6%, 8-high 5.7%, 7-high 4.0%, 6-high 2.6%, 5-high 1.5%, 4-high 0.7%, 3-high 0.2%, 2-high 0.02%.
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    Your flatting range might have good hot'n'cold equity vs villain's steal range, but being oop is going to make alot of those hands unplayable, esp against a good tag who will make you work for it, which is alot of the people opening really wide otb anyway.

    I suggest not flatting so wide, drop the weak Axs, the Kxs, and alot of the broadway. Flat only really good second tier hands like 22-99, ATs, AJ, AQo, KJs+, QJs (7% of hands). If you're playing full ring, maybe drop the smaller pairs, idk about that.

    It looks odd that 2/3 of your 3-bet range is light. Tags will notice that and play back, and fish will call with better. Maybe pick just some of the light hands so your value/light ranges are more 50/50. Say TT+, AQs, AK for value and A3s-A5s, 76s-98s as semi-bluffs (6% of hands total). Something like that.

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