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    Default My first 10,000 hands ever, NL5

    Big milestone for me today. I hit my first 10,000 hands playing NL5. I'm not sure what to look for in the stats so I thought I would post something here. Any comments are more than welcome.






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    Grats bro! Looks like you are pretty solid. The first thing that jumped out at me was maybe play less in EP, that maybe you play too much from the blinds, but having said that you are obviously playing well from the blinds so meh, don't fix what isn't broken.
    I'm a little surprised that your win-rate is so low on the BU, compared to the CO and HJ. Maybe tighten up a little on the BU. Take a look at your Att. to Steal/
    Stole. If that ratio is high on the BU then your a little too loose and ppl are not respecting your BU raises.
    Take a look at Call PF 3B. I know i call 3B too much OOP and it was a leak.
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    Your most important stat, bb/100, is really good. Congrats on winning at poker. That's not easy at any stakes.

    As far as improvement, I see three things, your w$wsf, pfr, and steal are all a little low. As you play more and get better at reading people and boards, you can mix in some flop raises and double barrels to bring up your red line, a normal good w$wsf is about 45. It's much better to have a c-bet of 70 and a 2barrel of 50, than a c-bet of 80 and a 2barrel of 40. Also, you should be targeting the fish and isolating them alot. Over-limping is def not as +EV as isolating, again when you can recognize good spots. Lastly, this also depends on reading players and knowing who's in the blinds, you could steal alot more, like 50% or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by couriermike View Post
    you could steal alot more, like 50% or so.
    Jeebus. wat? I would look at your Att. Steal/Stole before Att. Steal more. Your going to be getting 3bet and cbet hard by any semi-conscious reg on the BU/in the blinds stealing 50%.
    His Att. Steal is 36%, which is an avg of SB, CO, and BU. Usually Att. Steal % BU>CO>SB therefore his BU Att. Steal is already close to if not over 40%, which leads me back to wondering why his win-rate is so low on the BU and concluding that maybe he is opening up too wide.

    Agree though with closing VPIP/PFR. Maybe 18/16.

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...-a-152792.html
    Last edited by Openside; 12-10-2010 at 10:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by couriermike View Post
    It's much better to have a c-bet of 70 and a 2barrel of 50, than a c-bet of 80 and a 2barrel of 40.
    What is the 2barrel stat called? CBet Turn?
    Last edited by compudaze; 12-10-2010 at 10:12 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compudaze View Post
    What is the 2barrel stat called? CBet Turn?
    right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    Jeebus. wat? I would look at your Att. Steal/Stole before Att.
    My attempt to steal is at 36%.

    Success:
    • No flop: 63.13%
    • Fold: 20.86%
    • Won w/o SD: 77.11%
    • Went to SD: 8.84%
    • Won $ at SD: 56.41%


    Are those #'s good?

    When I filter for button only, the #'s are about the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    I'm a little surprised that your win-rate is so low on the BU, compared to the CO and HJ. Maybe tighten up a little on the BU.
    I lost a few bid hands on the button. KK to AA, flush over flush, set over set. But I do tend to open most semi connected hands. Perhaps too many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    Jeebus. wat? I would look at your Att. Steal/Stole before Att. Steal more. Your going to be getting 3bet and cbet hard by any semi-conscious reg on the BU/in the blinds stealing 50%.
    His Att. Steal is 36%, which is an avg of SB, CO, and BU. Usually Att. Steal % BU>CO>SB therefore his BU Att. Steal is already close to if not over 40%, which leads me back to wondering why his win-rate is so low on the BU and concluding that maybe he is opening up too wide.

    Agree though with closing VPIP/PFR. Maybe 18/16.

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...-a-152792.html
    I was talking about 50% from the button. Sorry if I misread. I usually open atc otb vs nits, 60% vs tags, and 40% (lose the small cards) vs fish. This has worked out pretty well. I'm playing 5NL and 10NL.

    @compudaze, those #'s look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by couriermike View Post
    As you play more and get better at reading people and boards, you can mix in some flop raises and double barrels to bring up your red line, a normal good w$wsf is about 45. It's much better to have a c-bet of 70 and a 2barrel of 50, than a c-bet of 80 and a 2barrel of 40.
    My CBet flop is 54% and my CBet turn is 45%. CBet success is 46%.

    I've recently been taking a lot of consideration into board texture before cbetting and have cut down a lot.

    Should I do more flop cbetting and less double barrling?
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    tighten up UTG you are looser there than late middle position. Granted you could be running like jesus UTg but still that should be the tightest vpip/pfr you have, especially at micros.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by couriermike View Post
    I was talking about 50% from the button. Sorry if I misread. I usually open atc otb vs nits, 60% vs tags, and 40% (lose the small cards) vs fish. This has worked out pretty well. I'm playing 5NL and 10NL.
    Srry bud, totally me that misunderstood. I thought you were meaning upping his avg Att. Steal from 36% to 50%.
    Also, my Att. Steal is 25/19/10 so i'm pretty passive and am leaving a lot of money on the table. Funny thing is that this is up approx 10% since reading spoon's post. Still a work in progress. It helped me recognise a steal also. Att.Steal wasnt even on my HUD. It is now and colour coded. I will call/3bet and play aggressively with quite a wide range from BU/blinds against a TAG who steals >25%, which is proving to be significantly +EV (~250BB/100).

    Edit: im at 5NL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    Att.Steal wasnt even on my HUD. It is now and colour coded. I will call/3bet and play aggressively with quite a wide range from BU/blinds against a TAG who steals >25%, which is proving to be significantly +EV (~250BB/100).
    Hmm, good idea to put att. steal % in hud. What else should i put there?

    currently have:
    vpip / pfr / limp-call / af / total-hands
    3b / fold to 3b / cbet / fold to cbet


    Thanks for the comment all!
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    Folds to steal% are good too. Don't get too cluttered though...learn to make popups imo so you can leave minimum stats on your HUD.

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