Bot thing is becoming very questionable!

[Rock46jj]

Im starting to not like the experience of playing online poker. Im noticing a lot of junk being called on table full of $$$. I mean I watched my friend play on ftp last night and it was bizarrr. How can some get beat 2 all-ins in a row. First hand Hero= AK suited / Villain 78 off. I mean come on. Villain pushs all in pre flop $525 when there is only $83 in the pot. I mean theres something wrong with that picture. 2nd hand Queens vs pocked 6s and same type of situation. What you guys think about this. Are the bots becoming a cheat and whos using them? Any sites with no bots? Whats your take help!

[HarleyGuy13]

Cool story bro!

[Penneywize]

My take is you're stupid and so is your friend. Bots are beatable, streaks happen, and I'd take AKs all in pre vs an overshove by 87o - if I had the read - every day of the week. Stop being retarded.

[spoonitnow]

How can some get beat 2 all-ins in a row.

Consider the following all-in equities given to us from PokerStove:

  82,190,592  games     0.125 secs   657,524,736  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	64.242%  	64.03% 	00.21% 	      52630728 	   170412.00   { AKs }
Hand 1: 	35.758%  	35.55% 	00.21% 	      29219040 	   170412.00   { 87o }

  61,642,944  games     0.062 secs   994,241,032  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	80.527%  	80.36% 	00.17% 	      49533516 	   105696.00   { QQ }
Hand 1: 	19.473%  	19.30% 	00.17% 	      11898036 	   105696.00   { 66 }

The chance of Villain winning both all-ins is 0.35758 * 0.19473 which is about 0.07 or 7%. He's got to have a slim chance to win so you can keep dangling that carrot in front of him the few times he does luck up so he doesn't just give up on the game, thinking he can't beat it.

There have been reports of bots and other cheaters on Full Tilt within the past few weeks. If you'd like to message me on AIM at xojessahhox or on Yahoo IM at [email protected], I'd be glad to talk about it with you sometime!

[Nekrogovner]

Im starting to not like the experience of playing online poker. Im noticing a lot of junk being called on table full of $$$. I mean I watched my friend play on ftp last night and it was bizarrr. How can some get beat 2 all-ins in a row. First hand Hero= AK suited / Villain 78 off. I mean come on. Villain pushs all in pre flop $525 when there is only $83 in the pot. I mean theres something wrong with that picture. 2nd hand Queens vs pocked 6s and same type of situation. What you guys think about this. Are the bots becoming a cheat and whos using them? Any sites with no bots? Whats your take help!

Once i saw fish win 6 allins in a row. He was shoving every hand and everybody was just folding to him. Once i got pocket nines i decided to end his stupidity, and called his shove. And i have beaten his 85 or something like that, but since my stack was low i took only 3/4 of his stack. And then the real comedy began. Others decided to get rid of him too so they started calling his allins. First he defeated AK with some crap. Then he beat AA with 23 (got 2 and 3 on turn and river ), and so on. 6 allins in a row.

Is he a superuser? Superusers wife? We will never know.

[daven]

ok, bots aren't what you think they are.

bots are software programs that make the ingame actions rather than a conscious being doing so. Meaning they'll never mis-click, they'll always fold JT from utg, and they'll typically have built-in weaknesses such as always folding to turn raises without pot odds/the nuts....
they are not in any way able to control/predict/influence the poker site's rng so they aren't any more or less likely than standard luck-odds to win in allin situations

[daviddem]

Anyone knows a link with the typical stats of the most common ones? Lots of free $$$ if you can spot them at a glance!

[Nekrogovner]

Anyone knows a link with the typical stats of the most common ones? Lots of free $$$ if you can spot them at a glance!

Some of them are stealing from CO, SB with much wider range then from other positions, and also shove to blindsteals from BB with similar range. Usually that is something like
Ax, TJ+, 22+. So in that spot i would usually call them with 88+, AK, AQ.

EDIT: same works for chinese shortstacks who follow their strategy blindly. Tho u gotta be careful, some are nitty and dont widen their range.

[Rock46jj]

Once i saw fish win 6 allins in a row. He was shoving every hand and everybody was just folding to him. Once i got pocket nines i decided to end his stupidity, and called his shove. And i have beaten his 85 or something like that, but since my stack was low i took only 3/4 of his stack. And then the real comedy began. Others decided to get rid of him too so they started calling his allins. First he defeated AK with some crap. Then he beat AA with 23 (got 2 and 3 on turn and river ), and so on. 6 allins in a row.

Is he a superuser? Superusers wife? We will never know.

Looks like a super bot to me. Come on how can that happen!

[Rock46jj]

ok, bots aren't what you think they are.

bots are software programs that make the ingame actions rather than a conscious being doing so. Meaning they'll never mis-click, they'll always fold JT from utg, and they'll typically have built-in weaknesses such as always folding to turn raises without pot odds/the nuts....
they are not in any way able to control/predict/influence the poker site's rng so they aren't any more or less likely than standard luck-odds to win in allin situations

Yes very true but what about the cheating scandals that were done by Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet. Also there are lots of stories about Full Tilt.

[OngBonga]

There are many times I've lost a hand in bizarre fashion, with me thinking "surely he knew what was coming". However, after googling his username and looking at his graphs, my mind is always put at rest. Not once have I found a winning player after I suspected he was cheating somehow.

[Johnny Cashout]

shit happens. keep playing bro

[spoonitnow]

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