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    Default 5nl AA deep stacked facing large river bet

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($35.50)
    UTG ($16.56)
    MP ($3.78)
    CO ($5.06)
    Button ($5.41)
    Hero (SB) ($14.09)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
    UTG bets $0.17, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.33

    Flop: ($1.05) , , (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

    Turn: ($2.45) (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.80, UTG calls $1.80

    River: ($6.05) (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $3.70, Hero folds

    Total pot: $6.05 | Rake: $0.40

    I don't know how to play this hand any better. The only things I can put the villain on are like AK or AQ of diamonds for a flush or 99 for a flopped set or KK for the rivered set. It really seems like I'm beat here, especially against another deep stack who presumably plays decently, since we have no reads.

    Or am I giving the villain too much credit? Maybe he was just calling down with AK, hit the K on the river, and thought I had like JJ or QQ and thought he had me beat.

    Now that I think about it, I think the best move is just betting the river. What do you guys think?
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    A much higher bet after the Flop might have been better. Unless he flopped a set you had the nuts so you should have made him pay a high price for seeing another card to try and improve his hand.
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    3 bet bigger since your oop and can get more value from the same range.

    I don't he ever has 99 by the river and rarely KK. We also can't completely discount AK since some will get sticky with it. QQ seems possible as he probably thinks you have 9x, TT-QQ once you check the river.

    Basically I think our hand is under repped once we check the river + we need very few combos of AK and QQ in his range, making this a call.

    On that river I'd b/f like $3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    A much higher bet after the Flop might have been better. Unless he flopped a set you had the nuts so you should have made him pay a high price for seeing another card to try and improve his hand.
    lookin back on that your right.normally when holding AA i dont like to see many callers in the pot so i play it aggressivel.but i was trying to milk them for as much as i could but that backfired as soon as the river came.
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    your hand looks like TT-QQ, and we have to work out why you think that you're facing a large river bet.

    If someone opens to $5 at 200NL it's small. If he does it at 5NL it's enormous. Why is that.
    What determines whether a bet size is small or big.


    In that hand you're just getting paranoid. Instead of thinking about what hands he will call you with on the turn and bet the river, you're calling out hands that beat you. Most likely because you took a bad beat with aces recently and now your cerebellum tells you this is going to be bad.
    Last edited by oskar; 06-28-2010 at 11:31 AM.
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    1) That's is a really small river bet
    2) You're playing like 280 deep, this should alter your usual play
    3) What was your plan for every street? How did his range change as the hand progressed?
    4)Why aren't you trying to give pocket pairs bad odds to set mine pre? You have to raise even moar pre to give bad odds when you're going to be playing OOP with an overpair
    5)Do we have any stats/reads on villain at all? Is he a winning longterm player? Is he multitabling?
    6)Is villain more likely to bet worse hands on that river that he'll often fold to a third barrel?
  7. #7
    I don't get why the K is a bad card AdKx is certainly in his range here... Unless he was calling down with like Kd9x. Seems like a pretty snap call to me unless of course you have reads that you neglected to post.

    Also, as previously stated 3b bigger and bet bigger on all streets. People playing deep tend to play wayyyyyyyyy too loose.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?

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