turn spot

[meeloche]

Villain runs like 30/24 over 500 hands or so, folds to 3 bets 50% of the time and 4 bets 10%. He's on the spewy side and is capable of clowning around. We don't really have any history this session.

Whats your usual turn line here and plan for the river.

No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (3 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

BB ($600)
Button ($831)
Hero (SB) ($1208)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
Button bets $15, Hero raises $57, 1 fold, Button calls $45

Flop: ($126) 4, 9, J (2 players)
Hero bets $72, Button calls $72

Turn: ($270) A (2 players)
Hero...

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

bet/fold 180 seems about right. i'd c/f the river

[Toadstool]

I'd usually bet for value with that read, I'd discount you being beat on the flop because he didnt raise a drawy board. What hands does the A improve? AJ/A9/Axhh, given the read I'd discount Axhh because he raises that a lot on the flop. I assume he would perceive the A as a good barrel card for you and will still peel with Jx a decent amount.

River, I'd shove for value on most non hearts or Jacks. Ofc this depends on your image though the looser he thinks you are, the more you'd want to shove.

Also, if he fast called the flop I'd be more confident about our hand.

[griffey24]

Yah I agree with previous posts.

I'd bet/fold for value here for sure, and only expect to really get raised on the turn here by AJ mostly. Sometimes A9 I suppose.

I think even Axhh will flat this turn mostly.

$170 on the turn I think for me.

[pocketfours]

Yeah b/f turn. Shoving any river with history/reads can be fine also.

[gabe]

im not folding given description, hes floating too much

[meeloche]

What's everybody's opinion on c/c down?

[texa8]

my opinion is b/f > c/c

dont really want to give free cards with villains flop calling range imo; your not really sure if villain is betting Ax or draws or other hands if he does bet...

[Toadstool]

From villains perspective, what does checking do to your range?

If he does bet the turn, considering he likely checks a J a lot of the time if you check too him, then his range is going to be pretty polarised too Aces up+ and draws? (assuming Axhh is weighted as a small part, as he sometimes would raise flop and sometimes check turn) He has draws a lot more than made hands imo when he bets the turn here, so C/R can be good just too get him off whatever equity he has with a lot of his turn betting range......unless he is going to be shoving the river more often with missed draws than the current equity. (not sure that's right)

say he has Q10 here and has 14% equity, if he bets the turn then you should be calling if he is going to bluff the river when he misses >14% of the time, too make C/C C/C better than C/R turn?