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25PLO - i cracked aces...but can I call?

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  1. #1

    Default 25PLO - i cracked aces...but can I call?

    We've played 1 hand before. I opened KKJx UTG and he called my ~pot cbet and insta checked down AQxx on a KJxJx 2tone flop. His sizing is confusing me

    PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($30.20)
    Hero (CO) ($30)
    Button ($25.50)
    SB ($5.80)
    BB ($26.50)
    UTG ($12.10)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, J, 9, 10
    UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.35, 2 folds, BB raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.65

    Flop: ($6.60) 3, 2, 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

    Turn: ($12.10) 10 (2 players)
    BB bets $6, Hero calls $6

    River: ($24.10) J (2 players)
    BB bets $14.75 (All-In), Hero ???
  2. #2
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    in ur accounts... confiscating ur funz
    I'm not giving any advice cuz I suck at this game... just want to point out that you don't crack AA22, AA33, AA88, AATT, AAJJ, AA79, AA9Q.
    Now have fun with combinatorics imo
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  4. #4
    river timing? The faster it was the more likely I am to call. Some people just cannot stomach making a decision were they to check so they jam, we're getting like 2.75:1, so it's pretty darn close all around.

    Turn could be a jam but I think I'd take your line
  5. #5
    he took about 3-4 seconds on every street. not quite insta but still pretty quick
  6. #6
    I don't get read, you checked down a FH?

    I think the flop is a fold,I guess this is OK as a float but on the flop you should have expected him to jam a lot of turns. As played I would shove the turn. Maybe he'll fold and you don't have to figure out when to call/v bet the end.
  7. #7
    this is the other hand. was hoping for him to barrel his draws. maybe bet turn c/r river is better?

    PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($25)
    Hero (BB) ($26.80)
    UTG ($26.20)
    MP ($38.30)
    CO ($25.65)
    Button ($13.50)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, K, K, J
    2 folds, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero bets $1, CO calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3) K, J, 5 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25, 1 fold

    Turn: ($7.50) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    River: ($7.50) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Total pot: $7.50 | Rake: $0.35
  8. #8
    I would just keep betting, decent amount of his hands have Jx in them and you're going to bet here with your FD/BW wraps. Many draws here will have a lot of equity vs a bare J and getting CR is a disaster. So usually he'll check back. I would assume that direction until you have a read. I would guess < 10% of players at 1/2 would bet either street with a draw, let alone both. Plus don't forget even if he is mostly drawing he could have a pp or the other K and have SD value.
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    Re: the full house line

    at 25PLO, I'm running about 0% when I check to induce a bet. Save this play for people that are obvious HE players, if used at all.
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  10. #10
    your turn check is fine when your hand contains a jack, you could also bet $2.25 again, but in all actuality w/o a read he's calls w/ draws on paired boards it's better to check here. I disagree with Doc that we'd expect people to check back Jxxx on the turn here, that's pretty darn passive/nitty w/o a reason to be so.

    Finally, checking the river is fine once the turn goes check/check if we think he's checking back all of his draws but betting made hands on the turn.
  11. #11
    I said he checks draws, not Jxxx. I guess I assume our generic 25 plo read is station, not aggro.
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    ups mai badz

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