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    Default 135 bb deep. big flop vs aggro player postflop. standard stack off?

    villain : 17/11 AF:12, his agression on flops was something like 6.0. Saw him rr wet-ish flops before but in those cases he was the agressor unlike in this spot where i opened up the action on the flop. we're pretty deep so i figured he might have rebluffed me here. dunno how wide he can be here. I'm anxious to know whether this was spew or not. thnx


    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($5.14)
    UTG ($11.15)
    UTG+1 ($4.93)
    MP1 ($9.85)
    MP2 ($6.82)
    Hero (MP3) ($6.78)
    CO ($1.90)
    Button ($3)
    SB ($6.06)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, A
    3 folds, MP2 bets $0.13, Hero calls $0.13, 2 folds, SB calls $0.11, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.44) 9, 4, J (3 players)
    SB checks, MP2 bets $0.30, Hero raises $1, 1 fold, MP2 raises $2.70, Hero raises $5.65 (All-In),
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    the odds of him bluffing this board in a 3-way are slim to none, and there's not many draws he can have. if the SB is a fish it's best to call the first bet to keep them in. Stacking off with as much equity as you do vs 99+{-TT} can't be a mistake, but it may be more +EV to just call the flop (regardless of SB's fishiness)
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    the odds of him bluffing this board in a 3-way are slim to none, and there's not many draws he can have. if the SB is a fish it's best to call the first bet to keep them in. Stacking off with as much equity as you do vs 99+{-TT} can't be a mistake, but it may be more +EV to just call the flop (regardless of SB's fishiness)
    Thnx Dozer i was basically thinking the same when reviewing the situation. I get a nice potsize on the turn with enuf stacks behind to get funky if i think he is weak enuf to fold to agression or i cna make a play on the riv if he checks one. yeah the sb being involved is probably even more awsome.thanks for the confirmation . I often feel that i ' ' overplay'' big situations like these. note to self : think more click less
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLongGrind View Post
    think more click less
    Sounds pretty obvious, but it's worth repeating. You're not on your A game unless you're thinking through every decision carefully. It's tough to do for a sustained period, but with practice -- it becomes easier.
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    why didnt you 3bet pre?
    and as played, i agree calling is better then raise/call.
    All posts are just my own opinion about a hand or a general situation... not advices on how you should play...
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    I normally 3bet pre here. As played I probably just call on the flop considering how deep it is and having position.
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    didn't 3 bet pre the dude was a nit pre but aggro post. I don't 3 bet just because it's a standard thing to do. especially not vs this guy having the suited version. I don't want him to fold pre having position on someone who is insanely agressive postflop. and i also agree calling is 10x better than raising here , cause my raise only makes worse hands folds except maybe a hand like KJ but that's about it.
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    if you aren't 3betting pre here then u certainly don't have the image to be inducing bullshit re-raises on this flop to make u feel comfortable getting this in given these positions.

    no to forget mentioning he probably has very few worse draws he'd wanna play like this ur Kd is in fact, a significant blocker.

    call flop at least the sb will have a wider range that includes more bs draws to potentially spew into u ur raise just iso's urself againt sets and then ur just calling to fold the turn 75% and making it obvious when u hit ur outs
    Last edited by Micro2Macro; 11-09-2011 at 01:13 AM.

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