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    Default 3bet by shortstack - I have KAo

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($3.41)
    MP ($0.98)
    CO ($8.31)
    Hero (Button) ($5.99)
    SB ($1.19)
    BB ($0.90)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
    1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.10, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.18, MP calls $0.16, Hero raises to $0.80, BB raises to $0.90 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($1.99) , , (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Turn: ($1.99) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($1.99) (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $1.99 | Rake: $0.05

    Did I make the right move? I guess I got lucky on the flop, but I'm obviously talking about PF.

    Villain was a defo a lag donk (50/11)
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    yes fine/std just shovel manies in the middle.

    I need a very good read to not stack off with AK vs a halfstack or less.
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    lol, easy poker must for real be a level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316
    lol, easy poker must for real be a level.
    Que?
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    Ranges, Stove, etc
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    Let's say he min-reraises here against your apparent steal with his entire raising range. 11% of hands is 77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,ATo+,KQo

    Stove says you have 58.4% equity against this range. So you are ahead. Now, as Spoon said last time, that is not enough reason to 4-bet. So let me try:

    You 4-bet because you think he might fold better hands (for example 77 or 88) or call with worse hands (for example AQ).

    However, the first thing is that the situation here is complicated by the presence of MP2, who called villain's min-reraise. We should include him in the analysis.

    The second thing is that we should also compare the EV of just calling in position with the EV of 4-betting before deciding that 4-betting is better. I am not advanced enough in my readings to figure how to do that. If one of the board's poker illuminatis would put us on track here, it'd be much appreciated. If not, well, I'll just keep reading my books until I find a chapter that talks about that. Basically, it comes down to the fact that facing a 4-bet, he will fold some of his worse hands that you could possibly have extracted more money from on subsequent streets. This is complicated by the fact that these worse hands also still have some equity against you. On the other hand, he will also continue with some of his better hands and then by 4-betting you just put money in as an underdog against this part of his range. I think the calculations can quickly become complicated, so I am not quite sure how to decide whether 4-betting is better than calling. Probably with experience...
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    yes fine/std just shovel manies in the middle.

    I need a very good read to not stack off with AK vs a halfstack or less.
    QFT

    calculate your pot odds on the call -> poker stove -> AK -> vs QQ+/AK -> compare odds -> call
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    silly daven, you can't quote yourself for truth. that's just vain.

    and the answer's no: this joke will never get old to me
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    I need a very good read to not stack off with AK vs anyone.
    lol im such a fish
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    I'll be honest. At first glance I thought EasyPoker was a level. At second glance he seems to be real. At third glance I don't really give a shit anymore and I see absolutely no reason why anyone is trying to offer real advice to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    I'll be honest. At first glance I thought EasyPoker was a level. At second glance he seems to be real. At third glance I don't really give a shit anymore and I see absolutely no reason why anyone is trying to offer real advice to him.
    Luckily, not everyone is a c**t like you, and therefore there'll probably always be someone willing to say something.

    Hopefully I'll never see you in any thread I start up again. Same goes for you Spoonitnow.

    Anyone would think your name was Tom Dwan the way you act. =
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    {locked again}IF you don't want advice don't post. You have a lot to learn. For one, you have been told how to post hands, if you haven't read the sticky here it is

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ds-t76748.html

    You are asking very basic questions and are missing the advice. You act like your the first person to have these questions and doubt anyone has asked them. Start reading and don't stop till you hit $200NL.

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