200NL FR Gametime with Drew

[BankItDrew]

This is going to be a fun little experiment. Tomorrow I will post the turn action, and Friday I will post the river. I want you to put both Hero and Villain on a range with each street.

After 3.7k hands, Villain is running at 21.5% VPIP, 15.5% PFR, and 3.5% 3bet.

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG+1) ($251.90)
MP1 ($203.15)
MP2 ($200)
CO ($322.80)
Button ($117.80)
SB ($87.60)
BB ($200)
UTG ($205)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with XX
1 fold, Hero bets $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 10, 6, K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero raises $40, CO calls $24

[BankItDrew]

And don't say hero has XX

i'm gonna go with broadway dd hands, TT+ AK, KQ for hero, discounting JJ-QQ a little bit. could also have some stone bluffs like 88 but seems kinda dumb given villain can continue with a ton of stuff.


I'd say villain has mostly 1pair hands Tx or better and some weaker draws, since i assume he'd 3bet with sets or 8d7d or similar.

[Fnord]

Hero's line looks like bullshit to me. Fail that he's taking advantage of CO's floating tendencies to build a bigger pot with initiative. I think we can rule out the hands he's going to try to pot control with and tend to put his range at strong K+ hands and strong draws. You can further narrow it down by the range of hands he'd open with UTG.

Made hands: AA/KK/AK/TT
Draws AdJ+d/QJs
Some % bullshit including turning QQ/JJ into a bluff (on a really bad board to do it on.)

CO must have a hand to call here and is almost never bluffing without some sick history.
How wide is he flatting here pre-flop?

[BankItDrew]

How wide is he flatting here pre-flop?

Where do I find this in HEM?

[Fnord]

How wide is he flatting here pre-flop?

Where do I find this in HEM?

Cold call %.

Probably just need to make a guess based on how the game plays.

i'm not 100% but i thiiiink KQs is in there, maybe discount it some % preflop

[Fnord]

If CO plays well, he's flatting because he's got the draws and bluffs crushed with not as much value against a sane all-in range.

no i meant kq is in drew's range, just not sure if he raises it pre or not, or how often

[badgers]

Wow I am really struggling to put hero on a range. C/r as the pfr is something you very seldom see at FR. I guess akdd, aqdd, ajdd are all possible, jqdd is unlikely. I think for value all sets are possible and maybe aa/ak without the fd getting fps.

As for villain, once he calls the raise he can have a load of weak draws and also AT/KJ+/JJ/QQ for made hands

[Fnord]

Wow I am really struggling to put hero on a range. C/r as the pfr is something you very seldom see at FR.

Basically this, it's a play designed to induce a float from CO, then get him off of his air.

[Deanglow]

basically you should do this with sets, huge draws, and air (AQ and AJ air not 77 air). With AA and AK this is pretty dumb

[Fnord]

Air is air. Sometimes you just need to send a little message to guys who flat you that they can't bet with impunity when you check the flop to them...

That said, if you have a tight UTG range, he really shouldn't be looking to float you light...

[BankItDrew]

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG+1) ($251.90)
MP1 ($203.15)
MP2 ($200)
CO ($322.80)
Button ($117.80)
SB ($87.60)
BB ($200)
UTG ($205)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with XX
Hero bets $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 10, 6, K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero raises $40, CO calls $24

Turn: ($99) K (2 players)
Hero bets $60, CO calls $60

[Deanglow]

well his range now still has a lot of combo draws but mostly hands that will call the river

[BankItDrew]

Final verdict ?!?!!?

No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG+1) ($251.90)
MP1 ($203.15)
MP2 ($200)
CO ($322.80)
Button ($117.80)
SB ($87.60)
BB ($200)
UTG ($205)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with XX

1 fold, Hero bets $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 10, 6, K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16, Hero raises $40, CO calls $24

Turn: ($99) K (2 players)
Hero bets $60, CO calls $60

River: ($219) A (2 players)
Hero bets $143.90 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $219

[Deanglow]

Well I'm guessing he had a really oddly played KQ

[BankItDrew]

snap fold btw

[badgers]

JJ/QQ is also possible I guess. It's weird since this is actually a bad card for hero's range (if you're not raising SCs UTG+1 which I assume to be true of most regs). I guess it's quite tough for hero to have air here now though (like dean said I think c/ring AJ/AQ is far preferable to c/r an underpair). Odd spot...

[BankItDrew]

Badger, badger, badger, badger, bardger, badger, badger, badger, badger, snake oh snake oh it's a snake. It's a badger, badger, badger, badger........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

[BankItDrew]

hero had jj

i snap shoved for no reason other than tilt fwiw

i think KQ and QQ could be in derr