1/2NL

[Beck]

Villain: the average 1/2 player, plays too many hands sometimes willing to call flop bet for the hell of it. Also recently lost a big hand with JJ and looks a bit steamy.
Hero: generally tight aggressive showed down nuts a few times, stacked a few players and sitting with a huge tower, so I am hoping I am intimidating, and have been getting some folding vig, but by no means have I been overusing it.

Villain: ~$160 in MP
Hero: ~$900 on CO with

everyone folds to villain, villain limps I make it $11
SB and BB call, villain calls (after rake pot =$40)

Flop ($40)

everyone checks to me and I check as well

Turn ($40)
:Jh:
checks to me I make it $35, everyone folds to villain, villain re-raises me another $40 (Pot = $105) and 40 for me to go and villain has another 75-80 behind

Do I call or go all in?

-beck

[Fnord]

4 way I think you need to bet this flop. 1/2 pot to at least clean out the overcards and gather information.

As played I probably fold.

[Beck]

Original raise was to isolate vs 1 player. can't bet on flop, too many loose callers at that table. that will happily call another 20 looking for an A. I get no information on flop betting there. I get more info checking, and its cheaper.

Fold turn? are you crazy? What hand that he has beats me? I only see call or raise.

-beck

[Fnord]

Fold turn? are you crazy?

loose/passive players like to run trappy lines. Also, there are lots of hands he could be bluffing with that have outs. Anyway, if he's a chronic trapper, the counter-strategy is to just not pay him off when he runs a GOTCHA! line.

That said, if you think he's spewing then look him up.

[mxiu]

bet 20-25 on the flop, this hand doesn't need to get messy

[Beck]

hmmm, so everyone thinks I should have bet on the flop. Maybe I am wrong

but back to the turn. I assume he is full of it, cause I still don't see any hands that HE would play like this and have me beat. Except 1 it's Ah9 and I think most likely he would be betting that on the turn. Plus I have nine of outs for that hand. What I am putting him on is A7, 87, 76


The question is:
So do I just call looking for him to try again on the river or do I put him all in now?

-beck

[Fnord]

Our hand is weak enough and there is less than pot behind so I don't mind a shove.

[melinda1978]

i think you should fold.