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 Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
 Originally Posted by oskar
4 handed? 100bb deep? Button vs blind? This is such an easy shovel against an unkown it's not even funny.
Calling is horrible. You're letting Ax, Kx catch up, you're not getting lots of value from smaller pairs when overcards hit.
I shove, but I open the player notes before I do, and whatever he has, I' m making a note on the min 4-bet in this spot.
k give me a 4-bet range then.
he's not entirely unknown, hes been pretty inactive so far. If he were 54/42 that changes things.
he's 4b the following hands for value: QQ+,AK give or take a few
now your job is to figure out how many bluffs he has in his range
to 3b bluff I'd need the guy to open lots of hands
and since it doesn't sound like I'd 3b bluff him a lot, 3b with QQ is OK if he flats worse hands
if we're getting him to fold hands as strong as AJo, it's probably not great to 3b and better to flat and check/raise a lot of the time we flop an overpair
I am not convinced that calling is horrible because we get a free cbet on the flop that's around the size of our 3b
so two betting sequences:
raise/3b -> we cbet he folds
raise/call -> we check, he cbets, we raise he folds
is around the same amount of money and we flop an overpair two thirds of the time
but when we 3b for value we kind of have to get it in
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