QQ 3Bet and Rag Flop

[AFchung]

No reads on villain

How was my line here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (MP2) ($11.85)
MP3 ($2)
CO ($10)
Button ($10.75)
SB ($4.25)
BB ($2.25)
UTG ($10.45)
UTG+1 ($9.55)
MP1 ($9.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Button raises to $1.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.05) 8, 6, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $10.45 (All-In), Button calls $5.35 (All-In)

Turn: ($21.75) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($21.75) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $21.75 | Rake: $1.05

[Monsieur_chat]

Personally I fold this. I mean what hands are you beating here which 3bet you PF, raise your c-bet and then get it all in with you?? Possibly Jacks, but I can't see any others? The only hands that make sense for the villain to play like this would be AA or KK which have you absolutely crushed...

That said I suck at poker so you might want to wait for some regs to reply.

[kmind]

You are not thinking about ranges

[a500lbgorilla]

I would call, c/shove turn.

[settecba]

Villain´s 3bet range PF could be TT+, AQ+.
After his minraise it could be TT+, AhKh, AhQh (Qh is river card, but by the flop you dont have this info)
It is pretty easy to see you have close to 50% equity against this range. You are beating TT and JJ which is almost half his range. You are beaten by KK+, which is the same portion of his range as TT-JJ. QQ is almost a tie, but this is a tiny part of his range. Against AhKh you have 45% equity and AhQh you have 55% equity. Though this last three parts of the range are not significant.
After Villain minraises flop, he has already put 1/2 his stack in the pot and he will be very likely calling your shove with this range(he is an unknown @ 10NL, assuming he would fold TT-JJ would be giving him too much credit). So pot is 9.05, and you shove 5.35 to win 14.4. That would need 27% equity to be +EV. Since you have close to 50%, you can shove.
However, if you think villain´s range is different, you should adjust this numbers and reevaluate.

Since you dont have any reads, I tried to come up with standard ranges to make the analysis. But this ranges could be off, so there lies the real problem here I think.

[Monsieur_chat]

lol I'm such a nit.

[kb coolman]

Personally I fold this.

wat?

lol I'm such a nit.

oh, ok then.

[Monsieur_chat]

lol. I did say I suck. Less focus on how shit I am, more on AFchung's play imo.

[AFchung]

I would call, c/shove turn.

what about an A/K turn card?

or a heart?

You are not thinking about ranges

now that i think about it, it does look like KK/AA. at 10NL people usually dont 3bet with TT or JJ, even on the button

[Monsieur_chat]

Well that was kind of my thinking but Idk...

[a500lbgorilla]

I would call, c/shove turn.

what about an A/K turn card?

or a heart?

You are not thinking about ranges

now that i think about it, it does look like KK/AA. at 10NL people usually dont 3bet with TT or JJ, even on the button

Still call, c/shove

[Parasurama]

You are not thinking with portals

[DoanDiggy]

It's perfect play considering that we know the Q is coming on the river. We are crushing villain's range at that point . (Next time you should delete everything after your last action... even us knowing that villain calls your all-in is more information than we should have.)

Anyways, I agree with gorilla that calling here with QQ is probably the most +EV. If villain has TT-JJ, an A or K is going to slow him down anyways. If an A, K, or heart comes and villain shoves, a fold is probably correct. If we check/shove on a non-heart, non-K turn, (hmm.... what about a J or T? There goes our value...) we are getting our money in much better against AhKh, and JJ-99 is never folding. Plus we get a chance to spike our Q .

I would call, c/shove turn.

Are we playing our entire range that way? We're certainly not playing OESD or flush draw this way, aren't we playing kind of transparently?