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  1. #1

    Default 25NL: AKo in 3BET pot

    I tried to convert this at weaktight but still had the problem of not being able to post URLs until I have 10 posts

    Villian in this hand is a TAG regular running 18/15/4 over 200 hands with 7.6% 3BET. We didn't have previous history and I hadn't seem him get out of line at all.

    $25 USD NL
    Seat 6 is the button
    Total number of players : 4
    Seat 6: Lividuma ( $26.25 USD )
    Seat 5: Hero ( $43.87 USD )
    Seat 3: markemarke1 ( $53.51 USD )

    Seat 4: samkhosla ( $11.83 USD )
    markemarke1 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
    samkhosla posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ Ks Ah ]
    Hero raises [$1 USD]
    Lividuma folds
    markemarke1 raises [$3.40 USD]
    samkhosla folds
    Hero calls [$2.50 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Qc, Kh ] [POT $7.25]
    markemarke1 bets [$4.50 USD]
    Hero calls [$4.50 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ] [POT $16.25]
    markemarke1 bets [$11 USD]
    Hero ?? ($35.87 behind)

    Should I have 4BET with my position and being 175BB deep? As played should I raise the flop? As played should I fold the turn? I feel like I played this hand badly and my only option is to fold because unless he's bluffing I'm not beating anything. I put him on QQ+,AK when he bets the turn but maybe a flop raise would be appropriate to figure where I am at?
  2. #2
    i don't much experience playing deep stack but i think calling him down is fine.
  3. #3
    Ok, thanks. Any other opinions on this hand?
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    himself fucker.
    i would call, i wouldn't always assume I'm calling the river.

    donking that flop with a hand better than AK just doesn't make any sense unless you think op likes to run lines where the logic is, "guy had AA or AK so he'll never fold!"
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  5. #5
    I think as played I'm going to let him keep value towning himself to death with his KQ or KJ or we split w/ AK. If he shows up with AA or KK, gross but meh.

    If you raise the flop you force him to define his range more I guess, he won't likely continue without AK or better. You lose alot of value there I think.

    4betting preflop out of position might have been fun. :P
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by speedcake
    I think as played I'm going to let him keep value towning himself to death with his KQ or KJ or we split w/ AK. If he shows up with AA or KK, gross but meh.
    We're behind KQ and I'd include QQ in his range. Looks more like either a split or we're behind if he's gonna bet 3 streets.
  7. #7
    hmm, misread the board. that could present a problem :P

    So at some point do we want to raise? or do we keep putting moneys in the pot out of position with a good but not nuts hand without any real idea where we are?
  8. #8
    So at some point do we want to raise? or do we keep putting moneys in the pot out of position with a good but not nuts hand without any real idea where we are?
    We actually have position in this hand.

    i would call, i wouldn't always assume I'm calling the river.

    donking that flop with a hand better than AK just doesn't make any sense unless you think op likes to run lines where the logic is, "guy had AA or AK so he'll never fold!"
    I'm confused, if it was he who made the 3BET and I just called in position, is it still considered donking the flop when he leads?
    Maybe he's putting me on a draw when he bets the turn, something like AhTh, Ah,Jh, AhQh. So if a flush or straight card comes off on the river or even if a blank comes off and he checks, what's my action?
  9. #9
    holy crap, apparently I can't read a non-converted HH. ugghh

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