BCS Bowl Matchups and opinions

[bigspenda73]

So I lost $5 today b/c I bet Mcat that it would be UT vs OU instead of UF vs OU in the nat'l title game (ship the 20:1 odds tho). I don't think my cause was aided by all the announcers saying during the Big 12 title game that UF was assured getting in, they in no way were a lock to get in as I still feel the best 2 teams in the nation are Texas, OU. Anyways, not the point:

Here are the matchups

Rose Bowl: PSU vs USC
--shitty game

Orange Bowl: Cincy vs VaTech
--Shouldn't this be like the Motor City Bowl?

Sugar Bowl: Utah vs Bama
--Thankfully the BCS buster doesn't get Cincy/VaTech and will have to make up for last year's Hawaii/UGA disaster.

Fiest: Texas vs Ohio State
--Once again OSU gets in on their name and $$$$

Nat'l championship: UF vs OU
--whatevs, will be a sick sick game

Observations:
1. THE LIMIT ON CONFERENCES GETTING 2 TEAMS IN IS RIDICULOUS
--Texas Tech deserves to be in a BCS game over Ohio State, not even close here, tell me how a 2-loss Big Ten team gets in over a 1-loss Big 12 South team. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.
2. Ohio State gets in over Boise State even though Boise out-ranks them because Ohio State fans travel better. This game will not be close, do not tune in, Texas will play with a chip on their shoulder and win by 20+.
3. USC vs Penn State is so laughable, would LOVE to see USC vs Texas, but no, tradition overrides common sense here. I don't see how Penn State can compete here, literally in USC's backyard.
4. The Big East and ACC do not deserve automatic bids. VaTech is meh and Cincy almost lost last night to a 7-6 Hawaii team.
5. Utah vs Bama could be the most competitive game other than the nat'l title game, however, it won't be the prettiest game to watch.

Alright, give me your thoughts

[bode]

playoff?

but seriously, you summed it up perfectly. TTU should be in over OSU, and i'm a huge OSU homer. I think the Nat title game should be Texas/UF though based solely on the fact that Texas beat OU on a neutral field. Nat championship will be a sick game for sure.

[Deanglow]

insert mindless UF support here

[swiggidy]

I was so pissed that the announcers in the OU game were sucking off Tim Tebow the whole time.

[UG]

pretty much agree with you on everything, Spenda. I can't wait to watch OU vs. Florida, should be an awesome game.

[a500lbgorilla]

lol BCS isn't about deserving anything. It's about money. Er go, ACC and Big East get auto bids!

Ship the VT win vrs the only BCS team we can beat!

[a500lbgorilla]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...ence-victories

Also, ruh-roh. ACC dominates out of conference?

[bigspenda73]

Something else, the BCS REALLY fucked Texas by not giving them USC somehow, now there's no way to get a joint nat'l title because beating OSU by 20 won't mean all that much.

Ok, let's look at the 10-11 teams the BCS had to work with, everyone match em up:

UF
OU
UT
Bama
Penn St
Cincy
USC
VaTech
Boise State
OSU
Utah

I really don't mind the national title game, although, like most, I could see UT being in it. The one thing that Texas has over OU is a solid, proven defense.

I like
UF vs UT (great nat'l title game)
OU vs USC (omg this would be sick and could determine a co-nat'l champion)
Bama vs Boise State (Bama is a tad overrated and Boise can show up in a BCS game)
Utah vs Penn St (2 teams the nation does not care about)
VaTech vs Cincy (same as game above)

[Lukie]

Thoughts:

- UT had a legit beef in not being in the big 12 championship game. But once that was decided and OU proceeded to rout Mizzou by 40+, you can't then say that UT deserves to play the national championship.

- Rose bowl gives automatic berths to the big-10 and pac-10 winners if they are not in the title game. Hence, UT could not play USC. Side note: how laughably unfair is it that this game is played in USC's back yard every year? (I just assume that USC wins the pac-10 every year, so this isn't necessarily true. It is, however, always in CA, when all the big-10 teams are in the mid-west).

- On the same note, the big-10 gets screwed so badly on so many different fronts every bowl season. They have the longest downtime since their season ends early, and always travel south/west/southwest. Compunding this is the cold weather making it harder to practice and the rule limiting teams to 15 practices between the regular season and bowl season. And yes, I have tissues in hand.

- Texas Tech clearly is more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State, so I agree that the limit of 2 teams per conference for BCS bowls is stupid. Of course, it's all a part of the retardedness known more commonly as the BCS. #9 Boise State probably has a legit beef here as well, but nobody is going to convince me that they are a better team than OSU. That said, I think I'll be happy if OSU even plays a competitive game.

- The Big East and ACC are lolbad this year. The ACC is especially disappointing considering they added Miami and VA Tech back in '04.. wow how this conference has underwhelmed.

- Hopefully one of Ohio State or Penn State pulls off a miracle and preserves the little bit of respect still remaining for the Big-10 around the country.

[WildBobAA]

Rose Bowl: PSU vs USC
30 point blowout here we come

Orange Bowl: Cincy vs VaTech
Worst BCS matchup ever.

Sugar Bowl: Utah vs Bama
Should be a good game, I'm looking forward to this one.

Fiesta Bowl: Texas vs Ohio State
The Big Ten will not do well.

Nat'l championship: UF vs OU
Great game, can't wait

Best of the Rest:

Ole' Miss vs Texas Tech
TT is the better team but I could see them feeling sorry for themselves and losing this.

Georgia vs Michigan St.
I could see MSU winning this. Georgia had a very disappointing season and this bowl is not where they want to be.

LSU vs Georgia Tech
Looking forward to LSU getting blown out.

Oregon St. vs Pitt
A good, if not very exciting matchup

Oklahoma St. vs Oregon
Should be entertaining

Boise St. vs TCU
I'm looking forward to this one too.

and finally....

Rice vs Western Michigan University
GO BRONCOS KILL THE FUCKING OWLS

[Lukie]

2007-08 big 10 bowl schedule (just to prove a point):

BC 24, MSU 21 in Florida

Penn State 24, Texas A&M 17 *in Texas*

Tennessee 21, Wisconsin 17 in Florida

Michigan 41, Florida 35 *in Florida*

University of Southern California 49, Illinois 17 *in California*

Louisiana State University 38, Ohio State 24 *in Louisiana*


Of course this is an exceptionally good example, but it's a common theme that big-10 teams have the longest layoff, travel the farthest, and play an absurdly high number of de facto road games (but never any home games) in the bowl season.

[WildBobAA]

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[bigspenda73]

cool

also lolsuckupaments at the PW

[a500lbgorilla]

You guys need to stop hating on the ACC just because ESPN loves to hate on the ACC. It's obvious that they're brushed aside when they're clearly better than the Big East and Pac-10 this year. And some rabid fans, I'm sure, would say they're not far behind the Big Ten.

When you take a dump on the ACC without knowing better, the BCS wins!

[bigred]

I agree with most of the analysis except for the PSU vs USC game. I think you guys are hugely underestimating PSU and this will be a close one. Just wait...

[Squeaky_Midget1]

You guys need to stop hating on the ACC just because ESPN loves to hate on the ACC. It's obvious that they're brushed aside when they're clearly better than the Big East and Pac-10 this year. And some rabid fans, I'm sure, would say they're not far behind the Big Ten.

When you take a dump on the ACC without knowing better, the BCS wins!

Its like you were sent straight from heaven

Ok, we sucked this season...but as much as the BCS and NCAA fucks us over like every year, everyone should give the Hokies a break.

16 straight bowl appearance and theres what? like 2 others teams that can say that

And Spenda your predics and analysis is pretty spot on...i agree (except for Motor City Bowl comment...low blow homie)

[bigspenda73]

I agree with most of the analysis except for the PSU vs USC game. I think you guys are hugely underestimating PSU and this will be a close one. Just wait...

I'm going to agree with you after looking over their schedule, I'm also THANKING JESUS that Iowa upset them otherwise we'd be watching Penn State vs OU in the nat'l title game....bleh

Of course, that might have left us with an UF vs UT Fiesta bowl, which would be sick.

[drmcboy]

Ohio State had Penn State beat. You can think we both suck but PSU is not a lot better than OSU. If we're stuck with bowls it's too bad they can't get a committee to focus on matchips rather than let all the bowls select. I would really like to see OSU vs VaTech or UC just to see where we are at.

[a500lbgorilla]

hell yah OSU vrs Va Tech would be nasty

[bode]

hell yah OSU vrs Va Tech would be nasty

nasty for you. BAM!@!@1

[a500lbgorilla]

oh how the mighty would fall imo

[bigred]

I just know the team well since my roommate is from PSU and we watched every game this year. They did not show up to the Iowa game and it cost them a BCS appearance. If Clark shows up to play USC is in for one hell of a match against PSU's defense.

[bode]

I just know the team well since my roommate is from PSU and we watched every game this year. They did not show up to the Iowa game and it cost them a BCS appearance. If Clark shows up to play USC is in for one hell of a match against PSU's defense.

i agree that the USC offense vs PSU defense will be a sick matchup, but PSU offense will struggle against USC's defense, which will decide the game. def. routing for the big 10 team though.

[kingnat]

Lots of long posts... and just skimmed, but I'm pretty sure they set up the BCS games as they do to eliminate (as much as possible) any discussion of a co-nat'l champ... Hence why there is no UT v Bama.

That being said... I like the Nat'l Championship game as it is. I'd rather see a UT v OU rematch than a UT v UF game, but I'm a Big 12 homer... so that's probably heavily biased.

OSU getting in makes me want to barf. That by far is the most offensive aspect of this year's BCS. I'd much rather see Boise St in the mix, playing VTech, let Cincy play Utah, Bama can be blown out by Texas, and.. I won't bother speculating about PSU and USC cuz they are tied in with conferences.

AWESOME page of final Coaches poll, just drag mouse of a coach or a team..

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...-ballots_N.htm

[a500lbgorilla]

lol Beamer ranked us 23. What a classy guy. I'd probably go as high as 1.

[WildBobAA]

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[drmcboy]

Lots of long posts... and just skimmed, but I'm pretty sure they set up the BCS games as they do to eliminate (as much as possible) any discussion of a co-nat'l champ... Hence why there is no UT v Bama.

there are conference tie ins, then money. the bowls don't care if there is controversy. In your example, the sugar gets the best SEC team not in the title game, and the fiesta gets the big 12. I think if those teams are not the champs they can take someone else in the BCS pool, but in this case with bama and texas the bowls want those teams.

[GatorJH]

I was so pissed that the announcers in the OU game were sucking off Tim Tebow the whole time.

I can't wait to pick your avatar (thread coming very soon on that one!!!!)

Maybe this one?




or maybe something more simple?



Damn this is going to be FUN!!!!!!

[Illfavor]

Is it just me, or was Tim Tebow not even in the discussion a few weeks ago?

[bigspenda73]

Is it me, or is the reason he's in the discussion because of a press conference speech?

[WildBobAA]

Is it me, or is the reason he's in the discussion because of a press conference speech?

ya, pretty much

[bigspenda73]

Looooooooooooooool how is it not Bradford:

Tim Tebow:
Rating: 176.74
Yards: 2515
TDs (passing/rushing) 28/12
INT: 2
Comp%: 64.9

McCoy
Rating: 179.20
Yards:3445
TDs (passing/rushing): 32/10
INT: 7
Comp%: 77.6

Bradford
Rating:186.29
Yards:4464
TDs (passing/rushing): 48/5
INT: 6
Comp%: 68.3

[WildBobAA]

The argument is that Bradford has more weapons than McCoy or something. I don't even know what the criteria for the award is. I'm assuming it's supposed to go to the best player but I'm not really sure how you're supposed to determine that meh. It's all politics anyway.

[witl69]

i want to watch the Alabama sugar b owl game just so that I can root for them to beat so I dont have to lkisten to all the crapola them crazy fans they are some real lunitics

[bigspenda73]

Best player in CFB in terms of translating to the NFL level is obv Crabtree, not even close imo.

If Tebow wins this thing (and each day it looks more and more like it could happen) we all just need to give up if we don't root for an SEC team, because they get the benefit of the doubt every fucking year no matter how mediocre their conference is.

[ensign_lee]

FLA only a -3 favorite over Oklahoma? THat's just SILLIES...

[bigspenda73]

they have Tim Tebow, shouldn't that make them a 50pt favorite over ANYONE?

[ensign_lee]

they have Tim Tebow, shouldn't that make them a 50pt favorite over ANYONE?

I'm pretty sure it's sill ybecause they're playing MFing Choklahoma...

[Mr Bigcity]

personally I think all the bowl games are trash this year.. Should have been USC VS FLORIDA

[ensign_lee]

personally I think all the bowl games are trash this year.. Should have been USC VS FLORIDA

lol USC

[bode]

personally I think all the bowl games are trash this year.. Should have been USC VS FLORIDA

lol USC

yeah, huge fucking lol @ USC.

[Mr Bigcity]

personally I think all the bowl games are trash this year.. Should have been USC VS FLORIDA

lol USC

yeah, huge fucking lol @ USC.

why? They have 1 loss just like Florida,Chokelohoma,Texas, and Bama..

They are super talented and always show up in big games like Championships

[bigspenda73]

personally I think all the bowl games are trash this year.. Should have been USC VS FLORIDA

lol USC

yeah, huge fucking lol @ USC.

why? They have 1 loss just like Florida,Chokelohoma,Texas, and Bama..

They are super talented and always show up in big games like Championships

they're one big win is against an overrated Big Ten team at home, they also lost to a meh meh meh Pac-10 team

kthxbai, try again next year.

[a500lbgorilla]

isn't USC a basketball school?

[a500lbgorilla]

also, since we're poker players and the saying, "any given sunday" basically spells out that football is a high variance game, wtf do we care how many loses and who they were to?

What if USC lost to Florida but it was because USC's running back fumbles the ball while having a heart attack and it's returned for a Fla touchdown?

You'd think we'd atleast be capable of looking at the substance of a team not all the sparkly layman hype potential.

[Mr Bigcity]

its laughable that okl is going to the championship over teams like texas usc bama etc.. their super hyped once again and the heisman was rigged.. Tebow hands down should have won it and now I consider it to mean nothing because it surely isnt based off the best player and leader in the nation.

[a500lbgorilla]

it's not laughable. What's funny is that the Big 12 is so overhyped. Last year, the big east was much worse than the ACC, but because the Beast lacked any defenses throughout the league, they constantly had over hyped teams ranked as high as 2 (UCF).

This year, it's the big 12 but for better reasons. Offense is just sexy. The SEC is really the only league that does it right. Schedule and perform well out of conference, have balanced teams, and shit on everyone equally. If any bowl deserved an autobid, it would the the SEC to the NC game.

That said, I'm confident that if you took the best big 12 (Texas, Mizzou, Nebraska, TT, OK) teams and the best ACC teams (Miami, VT, GT, FSU, fuck BC) this league would have as much parody as the ACC and Big 12 alone. And yet, the Big 12 is at the top of conference lists and the ACC is at the bottom.

This isn't a nut-hugging ACC post and it's not meant to shit on the big 12. Though it does both pretty well. It's just that I really wish VT played in the SEC.

[bigspenda73]

and now I consider it to mean nothing because it surely isnt based off the best player and leader in the nation.

yea if this was the case Crabtree wins the Heisman by a land-slide, not even close.

[a500lbgorilla]

It's funny that I thought that if Tim Tebow won, it's because writers love the idea of him being the greatest college football player of all time. Since he's always coming back next year, it makes for entertainment of the highest order.

Now that I see that Bradford won, I can't help but think that made the worst pick out of the 3 and Tebow should always be picked over the kid with downs.

[bigspenda73]

I'm thinking Colt saying he was returning for his Sr. Year before voting was over was a big mistake.

[bode]

its laughable that okl is going to the championship over teams like texas usc bama etc.. their super hyped once again and the heisman was rigged.. Tebow hands down should have won it and now I consider it to mean nothing because it surely isnt based off the best player and leader in the nation.

the hole your digging just keeps getting deeper and deeper. USC had one quality win over an overrated Ohio State team (and im a huge OSU homer) and lost to lolOregonState who Penn state blew out on their home field. USC is a good football team, but are not close to being the top of the pack this year.

Also, lol @ Tebow should have won the heisman.

[a500lbgorilla]

again devil's advocate. lol @ loling @ Tebow should have won heisman.

Bradford was the worst of the 3 and he's still a legit heisman choice.

[bigspenda73]

Bradford might have had the best year of a QB in the history of college football, why do you continually say he was the worst of the 3?

[a500lbgorilla]

Was he ever sacked? Voting for him is voting for his offense. And saying he's number 3 is not a slight against him by any means.

[Mr Bigcity]

Tebow=best leader and college football player hands down.. Florida would defiantly not be in national championship if it was not for him

[bigspenda73]

I'm so tired of Tebow being called a great leader

[swiggidy]

It's obvious proof of jesus and thus god.

[bigspenda73]

wonder if Tebow will thank Jesus if OU lays 60 on UF in the national championship game?

[swiggidy]

would be proof of the devil obv

[bigspenda73]

I would love to hear someone just say "I'd like to thank my parents, coaches, and myself for working my ass off with my genetically-given talent"

[Mr Bigcity]

wonder if Tebow will thank Jesus if OU lays 60 on UF in the national championship game?

wanna wager on the Florida OU game?

[swiggidy]

wonder if Tebow will thank Jesus if OU lays 60 on UF in the national championship game?

wanna wager on the Florida OU game?

You post good

10:1 that Tebow says "my lord and savior jesus christ" in a post game interview regardless of the outcome. Push if he doesn't do an interview.

[Mr Bigcity]

im not a Tebow fan I just know Florida will stomp on Okl

[WildBobAA]

I created a FTR group for the bowl pick'em on yahoo. You pick all 34 bowl games and rank them from 1 to 34 based on how confident you are on that game. The game you rank #1 is worth 34 points and the game you rank 34th is worth 1 point. This is just for fun and anyone can join. Just login to yahoo and go to the pick'em page: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl then create your pick set and join the FTR group.

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[Lukie]

has so much stupid ever before been wrapped up in such a short thread?

[a500lbgorilla]

not until you showed up, BUH-ZING!

[GatorJH]

I created a FTR group for the bowl pick'em on yahoo. You pick all 34 bowl games and rank them from 1 to 34 based on how confident you are on that game. The game you rank #1 is worth 34 points and the game you rank 34th is worth 1 point. This is just for fun and anyone can join. Just login to yahoo and go to the pick'em page: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl then create your pick set and join the FTR group.

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If you're in this, make sure you set your picks by tomorrow since the first bowl game is tomorrow. If you don't have them set by then, you won't be able to make any picks. If you're not in this, then JOIN!

That has to be the worst interface EVER. The drag and drop mode puts some stupid stat thing over where I need to select a team and I can't figure out how to get rid of that stupid motherfucking thing. NO problem though, I will just use classic mode. NOT!!!! Tried that twice and it won't let me submit my pics.

I will check back in the morning to see if anyone has any brilliant ideas for how to fix either one of these two issues.

[swiggidy]

GATOR!!!

You should be online so I can talk shit. But you're not so fuck.

/Tim Tebow sucks <insert large animal here> cock

[WildBobAA]

I created a FTR group for the bowl pick'em on yahoo. You pick all 34 bowl games and rank them from 1 to 34 based on how confident you are on that game. The game you rank #1 is worth 34 points and the game you rank 34th is worth 1 point. This is just for fun and anyone can join. Just login to yahoo and go to the pick'em page: http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl then create your pick set and join the FTR group.

Group ID: 24521
Password: xianti

If you're in this, make sure you set your picks by tomorrow since the first bowl game is tomorrow. If you don't have them set by then, you won't be able to make any picks. If you're not in this, then JOIN!

That has to be the worst interface EVER. The drag and drop mode puts some stupid stat thing over where I need to select a team and I can't figure out how to get rid of that stupid motherfucking thing. NO problem though, I will just use classic mode. NOT!!!! Tried that twice and it won't let me submit my pics.

I will check back in the morning to see if anyone has any brilliant ideas for how to fix either one of these two issues.

I made it on yahoo and not ESPN because I thought people liked the yahoo setup more :(

[WildBobAA]

What browser are you using? It worked fine for me in Firefox 3

[GatorJH]

I tried IE and Safari and had problems with both. Through nothing but sheer perseverance I finally got them in.

[GatorJH]

GATOR!!!

You should be online so I can talk shit. But you're not so fuck.

/Tim Tebow sucks <insert large animal here> cock

You missed me by about 20 minutes dude!!!

[bigspenda73]

so far so good for USC, even w/o one of the most electrifying players in college football.

[Mr Bigcity]

so far so good for USC, even w/o one of the most electrifying players in college football.

ya 31-7 what a great match up the ESPN retards said it would be..

[bigspenda73]

so far so good for USC, even w/o one of the most electrifying players in college football.

ya 31-7 what a great match up the ESPN retards said it would be..

well they kinda have to say it seeing how it's on ABC who is affiliated with ESPN. It wouldn't be great for ratings to tell everyone before hand what a blow out they expected this to be.