TT to preflop raise ($27)

[taipan168]

Opp's stats were about 30/16 up to this blind level (about 100 hands across different tourneys). Shove preflop instead? As played I have to get 'em in, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 50.00 BB (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG (3015.00)
MP1 (3024.00)
MP2 (1836.00)
CO (1215.00)
Hero (Button) (1395.00)
SB (1440.00)
BB (1575.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10 10
2 folds, MP2 raises to 200.00, 1 fold, Hero calls 200.00, 2 folds

Flop: (475.00) 4 8 8 (2 players)
MP2 bets 200.00, Hero raises to 1195.00 (All-In)

[Ryski]

I like how you played it. I can see a push because of the raise size relative to your stack size but I opt to call with position. Out of position I'd push pre-flop.

On the flop you are definitely getting the chips in. If he has an overpair, shit happens.

[mikeneron]

I'm not sure about the call preflop. I am tempted to just shove preflop. What about reraising preflop to 500 or 600? I like the shove better, but what are your thoughts on that?

As played, definitely shove that flop.

[Illfavor]

I think a RR to <AI is the worst play. I would shove it pre. That flop is great for you, so get'em in there.

[mxiu]

If he's bad, shove preflop. If he's decent, the way you played it is fine.

[revolvingiris]

I push preflop here. I understand why you called but hes like you said a 30/16. AI pre to get him to lay garbage down.

[Sprayed]

I either shove or fold pre. His stats would make me shove. I don't think that you can call and see a flop. 200 is too much of your stack to just call preflop.

[elitemob]

This is a really weird situation since TT is kind of "borderline" for me. I definitly would shove in a turbo pre-flop. I would not, however in a standard-format at my stakes ($5.50). I'm kind of torn between reraising and calling. I think I'd call here b/c of stack size and play it exactly as you did. Shove flop, since it's very likely it missed him, even at 16% PFR.

[drmcboy]

(tai) which boards would you fold on

also if you know he tends to make HPS c bets this isn't as good

[taipan168]

(tai) which boards would you fold on

A high and maybe K high (but probably not)

also if you know he tends to make HPS c bets this isn't as good

Not sure I get what you mean here.

[drmcboy]

It's a lot better if you can shove over a PSB.

We're trading the chance to (1) maybe get it in as a big favorite vs lower PPs for (2) the chance to avoid some flips and pick off some C-bets. The smaller he cbets the less value 2 has. Also with 2 we risk getting outplayed or getting it in almost dead vs a hand that might have folded pre - say KJ or QJ.

I think either way is OK as long as we're playing 1 over non A flops.

If you have seen him raise/fold a lot pre I would lean that direction.

[mikeneron]

After looking closer at the stack sizes, I think this should be a push preflop. Calling 200 is almost 15% of our stack. Put him to the decision if he wants to flip or not if he has overcards. If he has a higher pair, then nh and gg..onto the next.

[taipan168]

We're trading the chance to (1) maybe get it in as a big favorite vs lower PPs for (2) the chance to avoid some flips and pick off some C-bets. The smaller he cbets the less value 2 has. Also with 2 we risk getting outplayed or getting it in almost dead vs a hand that might have folded pre - say KJ or QJ.

I don't understand the part in bold. Why are we worried about hands like KJ/QJ calling our shove on this board? Or are you comparing shoving preflop to just flat calling the raise and getting it in on a non-A board?

[drmcboy]

QJ will fold pre.

It will not fold on a Q/J high board

[taipan168]

QJ will fold pre.

It will not fold on a Q/J high board

OK, that's what I thought. I guess the attraction of flat calling if he's raising with hands like QJ is that you at least win the preflop raise + c-bet, and if he's bad he might even call the flop shove.