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    Default could someone explain ?

    I was at the casino and these 2 dudes were in a hand.

    anyway, one guy had Ace/5 offsuit, other guy had Ace/9 offsuit.

    the board was
    4s 6c Ad Qc Qh

    the guy with Ace/9 won, my question is why wouldn't they have split the pot ? do they not each have 2 pairs ?

    or does the fact that the 5 is not higher then the 4 or the 6, so the 9 plays ?

    thanks.
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    Default Re: could someone explain ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GahGah604
    the 9 plays ?
    Correct AAQQ9 beats AAQQ6
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    and could someone also give an example when else that happens ? like what is the rule ? i do not want to lose my bankroll calling something and get screwed like that guy did.. he got upset and lost a good chunk of change.

    when would that situation arise again ?
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    so basically the kicker plays with two pair as well as 3 of a kind ?

    meaning, if they both had ace/2 or ace/3 they would have split the pot because the 6 would be in play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GahGah604
    so basically the kicker plays with two pair as well as 3 of a kind ?

    meaning, if they both had ace/2 or ace/3 they would have split the pot because the 6 would be in play.
    Make the best 5 card hand possible from the 7 cards available. 5 community and 2 hole cards. So yes, if they both had A2 and A3 they would split with AAQQ6 as that is the best hand that they both can make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzard
    Quote Originally Posted by GahGah604
    so basically the kicker plays with two pair as well as 3 of a kind ?

    meaning, if they both had ace/2 or ace/3 they would have split the pot because the 6 would be in play.
    Make the best 5 card hand possible from the 7 cards available. 5 community and 2 hole cards. So yes, if they both had A2 and A3 they would split with AAQQ6 as that is the best hand that they both can make.
    but only up to a straight correct ? like there is no kickers on straights right ? like if we both had 7's to complete a straight but he had a king in his hand and I had a 4 he would not win the pot with that king kicker right ?
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    Another example.

    Player 1 has AA
    Player 2 has 84
    Flop 584. Player one has one pair of aces and player 2 has flopped two pair and is ahead.
    Turn 6. No change.
    River 6. Player one has two pair AA668. Player twos fours have been counterfeited by the board pairing the six on the river so he loses hand with 88665. Fours no longer play for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifubowa
    Another example.

    Player 1 has AA
    Player 2 has 84
    Flop 584. Player one has one pair of aces and player 2 has flopped two pair and is ahead.
    Turn 6. No change.
    River 6. Player one has two pair AA668. Player twos fours have been counterfeited by the board pairing the six on the river so he loses hand with 88665. Fours no longer play for him.
    yes thats right. player 1 has higher 2pr and wins pot

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    Quote Originally Posted by GahGah604
    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzard
    Make the best 5 card hand possible from the 7 cards available. 5 community and 2 hole cards. So yes, if they both had A2 and A3 they would split with AAQQ6 as that is the best hand that they both can make.
    but only up to a straight correct ? like there is no kickers on straights right ? like if we both had 7's to complete a straight but he had a king in his hand and I had a 4 he would not win the pot with that king kicker right ?
    As muzzard said, it's the best 5 card hand that wins. In cases of the straight, you can chop in the case that you have the same straight, which by definition requires all 5 cards.
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    Hand rankings are based on the odds of getting each hand. Those odds are based on 5 cards, not 6 or 7. Since hold'em is really mutated 7-card stud, and 7-card stud is really mutated 5-card stud, they all use the same hand rankings.

    Your goal is to make the best 5-card hand, so when you hold A7 and the board is A2266, your best hand is AA667, and any better A beats you. If the board was A226K, your hand is AA22K, and the only aces that beat you are A2, A6, and AK.
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