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    Default 200NL: KK with 2 small stacks on difficult river

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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1/$2
    9 players
    Seat 1: MP1 ($284.45 in chips)
    Seat 2: Hero [ KC,KS ] ($227.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: CO+1 ($200.00 in chips)
    Seat 5: CO ($324.20 in chips)
    Seat 6: BU ($46.55 in chips)
    Seat 7: SB ($336.90 in chips)
    Seat 8: BB ($424.75 in chips)
    Seat 9: UTG ($279.20 in chips)
    Seat 10: UTG+1 ($84.60 in chips)

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    Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with K K
    UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $4, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BU calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: 8 9 J ($37, 3 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $25, BU raises to $34.55, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

    Turn: T ($140.65, 3 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

    River: 4 ($140.65, 3 players)
    UTG+1 bets $25, Hero ???

    No reads on both villains, they joined the table a couple of mins ago. With stack sizes, this river is a crying/vomiting/hitting the keyboard call, right? Or this is a f**%*%*% fold? it's true, I don't beat a lot (a part from KJ/AJ/AT/KT), plus there are 2 opps ...

    (Edit: corrected UTG+1 position as converter messed up)
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    3bet more to $16-$18. We cant fold river
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    jimmy44, you should probably make some adjustment to your 3 bet sizing when i play 200NL online, i like this: 5x vs 2BB, 4x vs 3BB, 3x+1BB vs 4BB and 3x vs 5BB.
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    After you guys' post I just realized that indeed I have problem 3betting in 200NL!
    I didn't yet properly adapted to the betting size.
    I have to work on this!

    I also thought we could not fold river. UTG+1 showed TT and BU 99
    Just been loosing some pots to short stacks this way and started wondering if I played badly somewhere.
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    umm shove flop when it gets back to you is standard no? why get fancy and just call? UTG+1 is committed already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    umm shove flop when it gets back to you is standard no? why get fancy and just call? UTG+1 is committed already.
    I would have likeled to, but when a shorty re-raises all-in the pot is capped ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    umm shove flop when it gets back to you is standard no? why get fancy and just call? UTG+1 is committed already.
    I would have likeled to, but when a shorty re-raises all-in the pot is capped ...
    gg me
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    Fifteen preflop, overbet shove the flop if they still both call.

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