QQ on paired board

[Galapogos]

First time I've played with this guy. The whole table is playing pretty loose-passive. Not a lot of preflop raising going on as there's two 70+ VPIP guys that will call down with anything. But I tend think he would definitely raise AK, QQ+ here as he wouldn't want to play a multi-way pot with the retards in there too.

Should I have pushed the flop? Folded the flop? Or wait for the safe turn like I did? Is his push an easy call? I kinda thought I'd have to crai.

The few hands I have on him he's playing 20/16/3 FWIW but has been quiet lately.


Texas Hold'em $1-$2 NL (real money), hand #P4-62117156-817
Table Abu Dhabi, 3 Mar 2008 9:22 PM ET

Seat 2: kratos997 ($59.20 in chips)
Seat 3: laki shark ($133.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Galapogos [ Q,Q ] ($124.90 in chips)
Seat 6: maple137 ($152.95 in chips)
Seat 10: annie-84 ($227.15 in chips)

Antes/Blinds
kratos997 posts blind ($0.50), laki shark posts blind ($1).

Pre-Flop
Galapogos bets $3.50, maple137 folds, annie-84 calls $3.50, kratos997 calls $3, laki shark folds.

Flop [board cards 5,8,8 ]
kratos997 checks, Galapogos bets $7.50, annie-84 bets $24, kratos997 folds, Galapogos calls $16.50.

Turn [board cards 5,8,8,3 ]
Galapogos checks, annie-84 bets $199.65 and is all-in, Galapogos calls $97.40 and is all-in.

[JL]

I think your line is optimal.

[will641]

i dont really think this is an 8 that often. and i think you shouldve shoved flop if you were planning on getting it in. plus yeti theorem, he might call you down light.

[JL]

i dont really think this is an 8 that often. and i think you shouldve shoved flop if you were planning on getting it in. plus yeti theorem, he might call you down light.

That's true, but his line allows villain to do something stupid like shove all in with 77, while he would most likely fold 77 to a flop shove.

[dalecooper]

I love it. What did he show down?

[Ash256]

Your line (given turn card) seems extremely sexy. Plan for a club turn?

[Marshall28]

1. why are you sitting short?

2. why are you worried about any card falling off on the turn? the board is paired ... lol it gives him more reason to get it in w/ a smaller pair in the hole and less reason to push a draw.

[meeloche]

it's 100nl so he's not sitting short.

I don't mind your line though usually i get it in on the flop.

[Marshall28]

it's 100nl so he's not sitting short.

I don't mind your line though usually i get it in on the flop.

Texas Hold'em $1-$2 NL (real money), hand #P4-62117156-817
Table Abu Dhabi, 3 Mar 2008 9:22 PM ET

that's what it says at the top, but it does say the blinds are .5 and 1 ... weird. my mistake. ignore my previous post i guess.

[ChrisTheFish]

I probs bet flop a little harder, but looks good apart from that.

[bode]

i dont mind pushing flop or playing it like you did on a blank turn. i think you line is slightly better though and gets more worse hands to get AI.