whats my play (AKs IP vs squeezer)

[bode]

villain is 15/9/2 over 115 hands. havent seen him squeeze yet and he hasnt been involved in any big hands that i can remember. 3betting here would be to take the pot down vs a mid PP squeeze attempt and hes probly not calling with anything i beat. Is calling here best? shove? i dont really know what to do.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($11.50)
SB ($40.10)
BB ($50)
Hero ($162.60)
MP ($60.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB raises to $10, Hero ???

[bode]

SB is a 63/3 donk over the same sample. im not really worried about him, although he is kinda aggro postflop for someone with his stats. he might come along if i just call.

[meeloche]

I like a call ip 4 bet oop. Since we are ip i would call see a flop and hope donk bloats the pot and comes along for a ride.

[EzDuzIt]

probably call. i think a shove would be horrible vs a nit like this.

[will641]

well under what conditions do we continue in the hand (assuming we call)? cause if flop comes out K high and he leads, we basically have to decide to commit or not at that point.

[thizzSantaCruz]

I shove here like 100%

[thizzSantaCruz]

actually didnt notice sb. if you think theres a good chance of him calling i think a call here is good.

[will641]

actually didnt notice sb. if you think theres a good chance of him calling i think a call here is good.

i guess it would be easier to assess the situation if he calls, because i doubt a nit is going to cbet in a 3 way pot w/o the goods.

[Genitruc]

with good reads you can do fancy stuff like calling and shoving over flop bet but without reads i d get it in CUZ W RE SOOTED

[Genitruc]

calling sux cuz we re never making money when we hit vs a nit

[will641]

calling sux cuz we re never making money when we hit vs a nit

yeah but shoving sucks cause we pretty much only get called by QQ+ and AKs, and i doubt hes folding. nits normally will not fold to 4 bet shove when they raise that high.

[Genitruc]

but we have the nutz?

[bode]

but we have the nutz?

lol

[bode]

calling sux cuz we re never making money when we hit vs a nit

yeah but shoving sucks cause we pretty much only get called by QQ+ and AKs, and i doubt hes folding. nits normally will not fold to 4 bet shove when they raise that high.

that was my thought while i was playing it. What is villain calling with that im ahead of? and my answer was, nothing. I think the range you give him is pretty spot on, but i dont really know how to play the flop unless its A high, or a FD. And against a nit im not getting anything out of him on an A high flop. So...

[Genitruc]

but even if he does fold TT JJ or his own AK AQs (obv he doesn t have AQ lots but whatever) we pick up lots of moniez

so what if he can t call with worse

[Genitruc]

it s thin though... nothing wrong with folding

I think folding and shoving have similar EV and calling is by far the worst option

[bode]

lol, folding never really crossed my mind.

[minSim]

Folding definately is an option, likely the best. It's all based on what his 3-bet range is and what he folds of it. If it is AK/JJ+ and he isn't folding anything we're better of folding. Calling is bad cause like Genetric said we're either not getting paid or not hitting.

Against AK/JJ+ you are 43/57.
If you push and SB doesn't come along you are paying 48 to win 53,75. So pushing is -EV. Calling is --EV. Folding is best.

[jyms]

Fold or shove. Calling and trying to get it in when an A falls is not getting paid enough to make the call. If a K falls, and you manage to get all in vs. Tagg your splitting at best. Either get it all in now with some equity vs AKo, KK and maybe QQ or fold. Because it feels Squeezy, I shove.

[gabe]

HES 15/9 OMG he has you crushed here

fold > call > shove

[pocketfours]

The MOST important piece of information is missing here. What's YOUR pfr?

You can't see the 3bet frequency of villain from his stats, so if you have been loose, say PFR > 16, there is absolutely no way you can fold this.

Your hand is at the very top of your range, which probably includes crap like JTo. Will you just fold here every time unless you have KK+? Cmon guys?

Call pre and bet/raise any flop with an Ace, K or any two broadway or any two hearts. Remember that AA/KK is very strongly in your range and you can rep those. Also bet any flop you miss and there is no cbet.

You have two blockers so JJ/QQ are more likely than KK+. And if he has KK+, then you are unlikely to hit the flop which protects you.

[BankItDrew]

Call > Fold > Shove

Shoving accomplishes nothing aside from the occasional $14 pick up, which is not often enough. Calling is good because of the title of the thread (AKs IP vs squeezer).

[minSim]

C'mon we have no information at all that villain is squeezing light. If his range is JJ+/AK we have to fold.
If you put AQ or worse in his range we're in, likely calling is better in that situation if he folds AQ- to a push.

[shortspacepoker]

Well i usually play AK or even AKs pretty carefullly especially since i raise preflop infrequently. Sometimes, id fold to a small reraise because i run into AA KK or pocket pairs more often than id like.

Ive lost lots of money calling minraises with JJ only to have the guy have QQ+on a low board, or when i have AK he has QQ and i lose the race.

To sum it up, id just call and if the squeezer makes a huge bet fold, if you hit, well just need to evaluate hand strength, but if the board comes AK2 or something, are you gonna bust or fold assuming he has KK or AA? Id really play this hand very passive in most situations.

[yourfather]

What kind of read do you think he has on you? Have you played alot of pots, showed down light?
You don't think he could squeeze here with 1010, JJ or AQ as well?

[bode]

lots of different opinions here, interesting. For whoever wanted to know, i was running like 26/23 on this table if i remember right. Villain has a bit of a sample on me, maybe 250-300 hands so he probly has me closer to 20/17, but i had been fairly active at this table.

[Unibomber14]

Shove>Fold>Call

I agree with TJ in that you have most of your equity against his range Preflop. If you can narrow his range to KK+ then obv, it's an easy fold. But even with just JJ+ & AKs, I shove b/c of the sqeeze situation. I don't mind a race against his stack.

Calling is bad, b/c this hand will be very difficult to play on later streets.

[noble007]

I dont think he's squeezin light because of the presence of uber-donk (63vpip) & you raised UTG+1.
Im sure he expects donk at least to call and overplay his hand post-flp.

I think pkt4's is spot-on but with the large 3bet size, u raising utg+1 & not closing the action, (donk 80bb will sometimes shove his 66 etc here, bb will call & you be out your 10$) , I think a fold is probably best.

... Not that I'll ever fold here

[EzDuzIt]

The MOST important piece of information is missing here. What's YOUR pfr?

You can't see the 3bet frequency of villain from his stats, so if you have been loose, say PFR > 16, there is absolutely no way you can fold this.

Your hand is at the very top of your range, which probably includes crap like JTo. Will you just fold here every time unless you have KK+? Cmon guys?

Call pre and bet/raise any flop with an Ace, K or any two broadway or any two hearts. Remember that AA/KK is very strongly in your range and you can rep those. Also bet any flop you miss and there is no cbet.

You have two blockers so JJ/QQ are more likely than KK+. And if he has KK+, then you are unlikely to hit the flop which protects you.

i dont think nits at 50nl are looking at that. i also dont think nits at 50nl are squeezing without premium hands.