AKo vs. goofy line

[ManicLombax]

Could not figure out what this guy was doing. CO was about 10/5 over 42 hands, no reads on him. Probably should have folded the turn, but after he checks the flop and bets small here, thought I might call and see what happened on the river. Anyone vote for folding to the 4-bet pf here?



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($2.81)
UTG ($2.25)
MP ($2)
CO ($2.59)
Hero (Button) ($2.16)
SB ($2.69)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
2 folds, CO bets $0.04, Hero raises to $0.10, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.63) 4, 7, 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.63) 10 (2 players)
CO bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23

River: ($1.09) 6 (2 players)
CO bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Total pot: $1.25 | Rake: $0.08

[supa]

I raise pre to .16 and pot the river where i'd expect to see a fold most of the time. Turn is confusing tho, I think calling is bad here but raising isn't out of the question, but really I think folding the turn is best.

[oskar]

opening range and fold to 3b range?

[ManicLombax]

Only have 42 hands on him. VPIP: 10, PFR: 5. Fold to 3-bet is 50% (but that's only a 2 hand sample).

[oskar]

What sort of range do you think that translates to when he opens in that spot etc...

Should I hold your hand? Remember if you only see your footprints in the sand, jesus is carrying your. You can do it.

[ManicLombax]

Haha, ok oskar I'll see what I can do.

Only 42 hands but so far seems pretty tight. From CO in a 6 man table he's probably opening 88+, AJo+, ATs+, KQo, KJs+. Something like that. My 3-bet was a little weak, so I'd think he might 4-bet TT+, AQo+, AQs+. If I'm right about that I have about 50% equity pre-flop. Even if I take off AQo and AQs I have about 40% equity, so I can probably call.

Post flop just seemed goofy to me. I thought about taking a stab at the pot on the flop when he checked to me, but figured with the 4-bet there was a fair chance he had an overpair and was trying to trap me. Small bet on the flop I'm thinking maybe he does have an over-pair and figures he doesn't want to just check it down with me. If he had bet bigger I would have folded. River was just donk weird. Maybe I should have raised him with my A high, but he'd played it so strangely I was pretty happy to just see what he had for $0.08.

[oskar]

He will probably fold AQ pre. I think it's better to think of your 3b as a semi bluff with blockers rather than for value because I would assume you're folding out most of his opening range... and definitely most or all of the hands that you dominate. I think both calling and 3-betting are fine. If you call you are not going to get a flop where you out-kick his tp a lot, but your PF 3b is immediately profitable. - he opens 118 combos and folds all but 48 (64 if he continues with AQ)
You have to weight that up against the value of playing against a dominated range IP. - as long as villain can't fold top pair ever, calling should be the most profitable option. Plus you certainly don't mind some fish in the blinds coming along.

[ManicLombax]

Cool thanks oskar. Yesterday was my first day playing 6-max 2nl. I've been playing SnG's where we're pretty much always willing to ship AKo unless it's a deep stack tourney.

[HarleyGuy13]

Cool thanks oskar. Yesterday was my first day playing 6-max 2nl. I've been playing SnG's where we're pretty much always willing to ship AKo unless it's a deep stack tourney.

Why would you do this?

don't 3bet a 10/5 with AK, just because you have AK.

think about what hes continuing with

^THIS^

[Arjonius]

If you're going to call a bet, albeit a smallish one, on what appears to be a blank turn, it seems like you might want to bet the flop.

[oskar]

What is a bet on the flop supposed to accomplish? We can call the turn because we can be pretty sure we have 6/45 or 1:7 to improve when we are behind and we get 4:1 in pot odds. We are good unimproved some of the time, and we'll split sometimes as well. We only need to make ~46c on the river when we hit, and he's fairly likely to make a crying call with some pair on an ace or K river if we bet half pot - ish.

Plus there's some value in seeing what kind of hand he played that goofy. If he shows up with KK+, we can set mine him for 8:1 in future 3b pots etc. ducy

[AFchung]

don't 3bet a 10/5 with AK, just because you have AK.

think about what hes continuing with

[TheLongGrind]

i would 3 bet pre at least 3x his open. probably call one bet on flop fold the turn , his range is so often gonna be JJ+