PLO: Flopped a J-high flush...

[SinK]

$25 USD PL Omaha - Friday, July 20, 09:55:56 ET 2007
Table Table 126509 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheSinK_ [ Jd 6s Td 9s ]
ill_steve folds
xXFISCHIXx calls [$0.25 USD]
Jet_i calls [$0.25 USD]
sacarelli folds
TheSinK_ calls [$0.25 USD]
hssson folds
Gazza866 calls [$0.25 USD]
MrX31 calls [$0.15 USD]
chiphead222 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 8d, Kd ]
MrX31 checks
chiphead222 checks
xXFISCHIXx bets [$0.75 USD]
Jet_i calls [$0.75 USD]
HERO???????????????????

What about if Jet folds?
What if there is no-one ot act after me?
What if...?

[KoRnholio]

With 6 players on the flop, a bet and a call, temporary 3rd nuts is pretty much rags.

If there was just the one bet, I could see calling and seeing what happens on the turn.

With a bet+call and no one to act after, I'm still leaning towards a fold. The only flushes you beat are 9d6d or worse, so it's very likely that at least one of them has you beat. Likely being beat with no way to improve = easy fold.

[overflow]

"No chance to improve" But perfect runner runner Ad Qd gives him the nuts!

[KoRnholio]

"No chance to improve" But perfect runner runner Ad Qd gives him the nuts!

Or 9d, 7d or 9d, Qd

But really, Omaha is a game of losing and gaining the nuts (or at least, better types of hands). There are a lot of spots where it's much better to be in position with a good/great draw than out of position with the current nuts. This can be very true even with one card to come, assuming there is still a good amount of money left behind for the river.

Being in a spot where you aren't sure if you have the best hand, and no decent chance to make it the best hand, really really blows. You will just end up putting money in the pot when behind, and not getting paid anything if you are ahead.

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"No chance to improve" But perfect runner runner Ad Qd gives him the nuts!

Or 9d, 7d or 9d, Qd

But really, Omaha is a game of losing and gaining the nuts (or at least, better types of hands). There are a lot of spots where it's much better to be in position with a good/great draw than out of position with the current nuts. This can be very true even with one card to come, assuming there is still a good amount of money left behind for the river.

Being in a spot where you aren't sure if you have the best hand, and no decent chance to make it the best hand, really really blows. You will just end up putting money in the pot when behind, and not getting paid anything if you are ahead.

Couldn't have said it better myself. As Bobby Baldwin once put it "I know players who won't put a single chip into a PLO pot voltuntarily from any position without at least a suited ace, and 2 or 3 connecting straight cards."