Two yucky overpair-type hands

[eugmac]

Hand 1:

I kind of have to make a crying call on the turn right? Or should I be able to get away from this?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2363892723: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (Turbo) (17863954), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:52:10 ET - 2007/05/06
Seat 2: ClockOne (3,045)
Seat 3: hurricane_bob (1,380)
Seat 4: s7ykcul (1,810)
Seat 6: eugmac (3,115)
Seat 7: Gontronix (1,470)
Seat 8: Toby Sanchez (1,100)
Seat 9: zeldamar (1,580)
zeldamar posts the small blind of 25
ClockOne posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eugmac [Qh Qs]
hurricane_bob calls 50
s7ykcul calls 50
eugmac raises to 250
Gontronix calls 250
Toby Sanchez folds
zeldamar folds
ClockOne folds
hurricane_bob folds
s7ykcul calls 200
*** FLOP *** [8c 2h Tc]
s7ykcul checks
eugmac bets 600
Gontronix calls 600
s7ykcul folds
*** TURN *** [8c 2h Tc] [Ah]
eugmac checks
Gontronix bets 620, and is all in


Hand 2:

How often is this shove a draw that I'm way ahead of, to warrant a call? This is a 6-seater btw.

[b]Full Tilt Poker Game #2365238682: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (17874606), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:32:09 ET - 2007/05/06
Seat 2: pje1111 (1,675)
Seat 4: a991234 (1,700)
Seat 5: krib (2,635)
Seat 6: eugmac (2,990)
pje1111 posts the small blind of 25
a991234 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eugmac [Td Tc]
krib folds
eugmac raises to 150
pje1111 folds
a991234 calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6h 4h 3h]
a991234 checks
eugmac bets 280
a991234 raises to 1,550, and is all in

[taipan168]

Hand 1: Just put opp AI on the turn. Whether or not he has an A he is shoving and with 2075 chips in the pot you're not folding this for another 620.

Hand 2: This is very similar to the TT hand I posted separately. I call this, I think you're ahead more often than you're behind here. It is an ICM question, however.