QQ in a tough postion

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I sometimes get in positions like these where i'm not sure what to do.

I get QQ UTG or in MP. I raise to 4x the BB, two people call who are loose weak, a TAGG player in the SB, reraises a decent amount, like 5x my raise (if my raise was $2 he made it $10). What do you do here? Is this AA or KK most of the time.

And the same question except this time you have AKs.

[bigred]

I'd call for set value if stacks are deep with QQ. AKs is situational based but against a tag I'm folding.

[IowaSkinsFan]

i say fold if you have reads that he is solid.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Oh, assume 100BB stacks

[elipsesjeff]

You have position here and I'm calling for more than set value. If an Ace or King flops I usually get the hell out of there. Otherwise I will at least call a flop bet and see if he fires a second barrel. It also makes it easier for you to folder later if a J or T hits as that ruins your villain's likliholding.

AK is habitually 3bet huge by tags following a PFRer and coldcallers. Also, could be a squeeze but that is unlikely.

[donkbee]

AK is habitually 3bet huge by tags following a PFRer and coldcallers.

how often do ppl do this with AQ too? rarely?

[aislephive]

I shove this a lot, but I'm not sure if the games are really aggressive enough to do that down here at 50nl. I'd be much more inclined to fold vs a fish who has a small range, but tags nowadays 3 bet light or try to, and this looks like a squeeze. So yeah I'm pushing this if I know he can 3 bet lightly. Calling and getting it in on a safe flop is also acceptable, so is folding if you think he is very straightforward and almost always has AA/KK to do this. Lots of tags will reraise here with TT/JJ/AQ+/etc so that's why I'd probably just 4 bet or just call his reraise.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think people are being retarded because getting involved here is more money than it is worth.

[elipsesjeff]

I think people are being retarded because getting involved here is more money than it is worth.

??

It is worth it if we have an edge, plain and simple. Tags will 3bet more than just AA and KK, even OOP. AQ is possible (i've done it before) but not as likely as JJ-AA and AK.

Pushing here I don't like as much with QQ as I would with AK, even if it is a squeeze play. I'd call and see a flop and let villain spew.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

What opponent PFR% would constitute a fold?

[dsaxton]

I think this question is almost unanswerable without some information on his preflop reraising range.