FTP 50NL - QQ&JJ

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2 hands from this evenings session

No. 1
FullTiltPoker Game #1224764850: Table Liberty View - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:33:36 ET - 2006/11/10
Seat 1: Hero ($82.05)
Seat 2: HugPop ($51.20), is sitting out
Seat 3: Ipspaul ($65.45)
Seat 4: BlazinPillow ($17.55)
Seat 5: duckymucky ($64.95)
Seat 6: ncc knight ($47.40)
Seat 7: ddtrio ($44.50)
Seat 8: RaiderJoe40 ($66.45)
Seat 9: mitchryan16 ($57.35)
mitchryan16 posts the small blind of $0.25
Hero posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
Ipspaul folds
BlazinPillow raises to $1
4 folds
mitchryan16 raises to $4
PeterPain calls $3.50
BlazinPillow calls $3
*** FLOP *** [9s 7d 5d]
mitchryan16 has 15 seconds left to act
mitchryan16 checks
Hero bets $8
BlazinPillow folds
mitchryan16 raises to $23
Hero ???

villian was playing somwhat TAggy. initial preflop raiser was donking around for a while, so villians raising range here is surely a bit wider here.



No.2
FullTiltPoker Game #1224672562: Table Westcliff - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:08:44 ET - 2006/11/10
Seat 1: ThreeFore ($24.60)
Seat 2: hardtotake ($19.50)
Seat 3: floridapokergal ($24.95)
Seat 4: JC012 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: philojak ($22.70)
Seat 6: sdago ($18)
Seat 7: mgj13 ($30.70)
Seat 8: collins1975 ($88.15)
Seat 9: Hero ($63.05)
JC012 adds $33.90
hardtotake posts the small blind of $0.25
floridapokergal posts the big blind of $0.50
JC012 has returned
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Jc]
4 folds
Hero raises to $1.50
ThreeFore folds
hardtotake calls $1.25
floridapokergal folds
JC012 stands up
*** FLOP *** [Kh Qh Tc]
hardtotake checks
Hero bets $2.50
hardtotake calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [Kh Qh Tc] [Ah]
hardtotake checks
Hero checks
*** RIVER *** [Kh Qh Tc Ah] [7s]
hardtotake bets $9.50
Hero ???

no reads here.

[martindcx1e]

1. I fold. This is AA/KK a LOT.
2. I fold. I think your best case is a split.

[Fnord]

1. I fold. This is AA/KK a LOT.

Good for him. I'm going to think about this a while before shoving or folding.

2. I fold. I think your best case is a split.

WTF?!?!?! Induce a bluff then fold?

[Pelion]

hand 1: I cant work out which one you are preflop.

Hand 2: I call this pretty fast because you checked the turn

[Miffed22001]

1. Am i the only one 3 betting and folding to a push here preflop?
Reraise from oop screams KK/AA i agree but we dont actually know for sure from the action considering opp is reraising a donk-raiser.

2. Bet the turn i think imo. River is insta-call considering your line.

[biondino]

Hand one - I think JJ is as likely as KK and AA, but that still makes you a 2:1 dog. I think you can fold this because his pre-flop raise defines his hand pretty narrowly.

Hand 2 - I would bet the turn. A flush won't be able to resist re-raising, a jack will probably call, ditto AK/AQ.

[martindcx1e]

WTF?!?!?! Induce a bluff then fold?

was inducing a bluff really his intention in checking turn?

[Beck]

WTF?!?!?! Induce a bluff then fold?

was inducing a bluff really his intention in checking turn?

it wasn't but he got it anyway

[dpe8598]

I definitely call hand 2 and I would play it just like that straight through.

[IowaSkinsFan]

a flush probably pushes there and hopes for a donk call.

[Turska]

Hand 1: I am AI or fold depending on reads.

Hand 2: I would call this river.

[Turska]

Yesterday I played same kind of hand against LAGgy player.
I had QQ.

He minraised EP, I reraised 4x just like in this hand. He called.

Board was fl draw rag flop like here.

EP betted me 3 I reraised him 10 he plain called. This is of course
very different in this hand. c/r hardly ever is fl draw.

Turn blank. He checks I put him AI. He calls.

River blank. He shows fl draw with mid pair.

Back to this hand though. I think c/r indicates overpair here.
No set or fl draw. So it could be anything from TT-AA.

[Beck]

hand 1 fold
hand 2 call

[Fnord]

WTF?!?!?! Induce a bluff then fold?

was inducing a bluff really his intention in checking turn?

Check the turn to control the pot size since if he goes berzerk it will be hard to tell if he's a muppet with another Jack, bluffing the scare card or has the flush.

On the river we get exactly what we wanted, a nice big bet we can call.