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    Default very confusing AKo

    I put him on Ax....

    Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
    3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

    Flop: (6.40 SB) 3, A, K (2 players)
    MP2 bets, Hero calls.

    Turn: (4.20 BB) 9 (2 players)
    MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

    River: (8.20 BB) 5 (2 players)
    MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

    Final Pot: 16.20 BB
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    Default Re: very confusing AKo

    I kind of like waiting until the turn to wake up, because it's a very safe board, so there are no draws that will call or re-raise to pay you off if you did raise, and calling also gives Ax the best chance to lose a lot of money. And until the river when he donks you, you have every reason to believe you have the best hand. When he donks the river that's a little suspect, but given the line you took he might do this with a lower two-pair or even just a pair of aces, so i like the river raise. When he 3-bets you that has to cast serious doubt in your mind about your hand (unless you have reads telling you otherwise), and I would probably just call the 3-bet.
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    Yea... I can how the river cap was a mistake... I went on a phil like rampage after I saw what he had. Usually handle my beats pretty well but this guy was just a plain donk...
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    Based on the betting, I would think he paired his kicker on the river more often than he had a set or somehow managed to have 42.

    I rarely get to say that you should make a "crying cap," but I think this is one of those times.
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    I'd cap this river at this level or against donks. If he had a set by the turn he'd probably pop it again there.
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    rofl, i've played a gutshot this way...


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    I've donked flops holding gutshot draws. Plenty of times. Especially if I have some folding equity with it.

    I dont tend to like to lead the turn, so I usually give up there when I brick. But he bet it, ok, he's semi-bluffing thin. Really thin. He's a bad player. Anyway, you raised. Well, now he's got beautiful implied odds -- even though he probably doesn't know it. He stumbles blindly into a good call. He spikes the river, and his implied odds are, as expected, massive.

    Not saying he's a good player, in fact I doubt he's a good player, but his play ain't too bad. Thats how poker works
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    He could definitely play it that way if he holds something like 24s in hearts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    He could definitely play it that way if he holds something like 24s in hearts.
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    42s and other gutshots are possible.. But at this level I'd bet that it's more likely a worse 2 pair.
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    How should I have played it then.... on the turn.... I dont see how he could bet out at the flop with 2/4 then again on the turn......this guy was a horrible player by the way..........i thought i did everything i could to push him besides not raising the flop


    Quote Originally Posted by euphoricism
    I've donked flops holding gutshot draws. Plenty of times. Especially if I have some folding equity with it.

    I dont tend to like to lead the turn, so I usually give up there when I brick. But he bet it, ok, he's semi-bluffing thin. Really thin. He's a bad player. Anyway, you raised. Well, now he's got beautiful implied odds -- even though he probably doesn't know it. He stumbles blindly into a good call. He spikes the river, and his implied odds are, as expected, massive.

    Not saying he's a good player, in fact I doubt he's a good player, but his play ain't too bad. Thats how poker works

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