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  1. #1

    Default Betting Help-- 5 hands

    HAND 1: I've got an almost bulletproof hand here and I didn't think too many other people would be staying in with me, thus the opening minbet/feelerbet on the flop. I probably should've reraised the flop. [I understand that KJ isn't a great hand to call PF a raise with, but UTG pretty much minraised every hand he entered, so I didn't give that much credence].

    I was surprised there was no raise on the turn or river, as I thought he might have a J or 2 pair here and he'd try to bet me off my apparent flush draw.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    BB ($30.49)
    UTG ($19.56)
    UTG+1 ($24.75)
    UTG+2 ($50.67)
    MP1 ($51.90)
    MP2 ($31.92)
    MP3 ($0)
    CO ($22.35)
    Button ($44.25)
    Hero ($24.96)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J, K. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG raises to $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 5 folds, Hero (poster) calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25.

    Flop: ($2) Q, T, 9 (5 players)
    Hero bets $0.25, BB folds, UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $3, Hero calls $2.75, UTG folds.

    Turn: ($8.25) K (3 players)
    Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3.

    River: ($14.25) 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $6, UTG+1 calls $6.

    Final Pot: $26.25

    HAND 2:

    Bet more on the flop ($2.5 or $3)? If he made a real bet on the turn I probably would've made the crying call and checked that river. I wonder if he had the Kh and I bet him off a straight.... Maybe QJ?


    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    UTG ($25.25)
    UTG+1 ($4.39)
    MP1 ($38.18)
    MP2 ($20.70)
    MP3 ($19.70)
    CO ($28.50)
    Button ($19.10)
    Hero ($29.85)
    BB ($10.85)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
    2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls $0.90, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.75.

    Flop: ($3.25) Q, 2, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2, MP3 folds.

    Turn: ($7.25) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 bets $4, Hero raises to $8, MP1 calls $4.

    River: ($23.25) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, MP1 folds.

    Final Pot: $33.25

    HAND 3:

    Reraise the flop to $6? I too often forget to factor in the original bet when typing in a reraise. Add was the turn bet too much?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    CO ($23.65)
    Button ($8.64)
    SB ($38.53)
    BB ($20.70)
    UTG ($22.85)
    UTG+1 ($28.85)
    MP1 ($15.25)
    Hero ($25.25)
    MP3 ($14.10)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3, 3. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 5 folds.

    Flop: ($2.35) T, 4, 3 (2 players)
    UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $4, UTG calls $2.

    Turn: ($10.35) 5 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG folds.

    Final Pot: $20.35

    HAND 4: No comments-- I just want to know what you all would've done here.


    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    CO ($8.86)
    Button ($18.15)
    SB ($13.67)
    BB ($48.47)
    UTG ($52.65)
    UTG+1 ($6.50)
    UTG+2 ($12.10)
    MP1 ($27.75)
    MP2 ($48.64)
    Hero ($40.69)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.9, Hero calls $0.90, CO calls $0.90, Button calls $0.90, SB (poster) calls $0.80, BB calls $0.65.

    Flop: ($5.40) A, 9, 7 (6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $2.35, Hero calls $2.35, CO calls $2.35, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

    Turn: ($12.45) 2 (3 players)
    MP2 bets $4.95, Hero calls $4.95, CO calls $5.61 (All-In), MP2 calls $0.66, Hero calls $0.66.

    River: ($29.28) 4 (3 players, 1 all-in)
    MP2 bets $4.95, Hero calls $4.95.

    Final Pot: $39.18

    HAND 5: Probably too passive here but with the # of people still involved in the pot, I was thinking someone (likely the BB) was slowplaying a 2 or maybe 5s4s. And I see too many AQ and even AK hands limp at this level at Party. I wanted to showdown cheap.


    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    MP1 ($25.80)
    MP2 ($26.10)
    MP3 ($12.20)
    CO ($30.65)
    Button ($18.35)
    SB ($48.17)
    BB ($19.88)
    UTG ($4.85)
    UTG+1 ($14.75)
    Hero ($30.15)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A, J. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
    UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($1.50) 2, A, 2 (6 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

    Turn: ($1.50) 6 (6 players)
    SB checks, BB bets $0.25, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.25, SB folds.

    River: ($2.25) 3 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1, BB calls $1, Hero calls $1.

    Final Pot: $5.25
  2. #2
    Hand 1: I don't like the flop line into the turn. If I don't reraise the flop, I definitely check the turn. Villian almost certainly would bet out more than the $3 we made. Also, it was too strong of a turn bet for him to raise, I think. If I'm villian and someone leads into me twice, I'm being careful

    Hand 2: I probably check-raise that flop if I didn't reraise preflop. It's a pretty scary flop and even with a set I want to protect my hand. AK is usually going to call you anyway. As played, I hate your line on the turn again. Why are we giving villian a chance for a free card, why are we checking the turn after we bet the flop, and why are we only minraising. I do these things sometimes with very specific reasons, like villian is ultra-aggressive and he's going to bet the shit out of the pot if I check to him. Lastly, you're insane if you think you pushed the guy off of a straight.

    Hand 3: I defintely don't minraise here. You probably just chased away AK, maybe a flush draw.

    Hand 4: I'm not sure. I'd like a reraise preflop because of bad position. I don't like a six-way pot with AK, and I don't like it three way after the flop. Once you hit the flop, though, I don't know a whole lot you could do differently. Did you and MP lose with AK to a set?

    Hand 5: I hate an EP limp with AJ. I'd raise the turn and the hand would play out differently. You'd see if anyone has a deuce. I'm not really sure why we're scared of 4,5 here. I can certainly pay it a buck in this pot.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by sejje
    Hand 2: I probably check-raise that flop if I didn't reraise preflop. It's a pretty scary flop and even with a set I want to protect my hand. AK is usually going to call you anyway. As played, I hate your line on the turn again. Why are we giving villian a chance for a free card, why are we checking the turn after we bet the flop, and why are we only minraising. I do these things sometimes with very specific reasons, like villian is ultra-aggressive and he's going to bet the shit out of the pot if I check to him. Lastly, you're insane if you think you pushed the guy off of a straight.
    Here's where I'm confused (ok, one of many places I'm confused)-- I have the best hand on the flop OOP with 2 others in the hand on a draw heavy board. I do want to protect my hand so I don't understand checking the flop (for the same reasoning why you don't like checking the turn-- I don't want to give the chance for a free card). Do you always check to the preflop raiser with a set (there was a discussion about this a couple of weeks ago. Most of the discussion was that it's better to lead than to CR on the flop)? If he has AA or KK he might reraise me. Maybe I got lucky and he's got JJ or 22. And maybe he bets his draws aggressively and reraises me. And as you said, AK probably calls anyway (I've found that the players don't always c-bet at the levels/sites I play at). I checked the turn because I may not have the best hand but I have the best draw while repping a made flush. If he made a pot sized bet I'd think he had the flush already and probably call down (I know I'm too passive. I'm still trying to get acclimated to the NL betting world) and hope to fill up. His weak turn bet gave the initiative back to me so I raised. I block bet the river, which was pretty obvious.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to work through the proper thinking. And as always, thanks for commenting.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by sejje
    Hand 4: I'm not sure. I'd like a reraise preflop because of bad position. I don't like a six-way pot with AK, and I don't like it three way after the flop. Once you hit the flop, though, I don't know a whole lot you could do differently. Did you and MP lose with AK to a set?
    I was thinking MP had AK also, maybe AQ and if it was worth a big raise on the turn or river to not have to risk sharing this dry pot.

    I'll post the result later.

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