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    Default KQo, connects, turn looks safe...

    Been working on applying some principles from HEPAP, which I just got through for the first time. This one is: if you flop a good but vulnerable hand, wait until a safe turn comes before getting the raise in.

    (Actually, I think he said if an overcard is unlikely to hurt you, you can give a free card. For some reason I didn't think opps had any aces, so I did.)

    PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q.
    3 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls.

    Flop: (7 SB) 3, 8, K (3 players)
    Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.

    Turn: (5 BB) 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, Hero calls, MP2 calls $0.50 (All-In).

    River: (10.25 BB) 2 (3 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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    Looks like a donk raise to me, I'm probably calling this down.
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    I thought so too, and therefore chose to bet out the river. What do you think?
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    Eh. Betting out definitely has its merits.

    I lean towards check/call here, with the logic being that he may bet hands that he wouldn't call a raise with (busted flush draws, ace high, etc), but then, who can say what junk he might call a river bet with?

    The only problem is that I really don't want to call a river raise, but I'm pretty sure I can't fold if I bet the river and he raises.
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    If you just call the turn, I would probably check/call the river too. Give him a chance to bluff and give yourself a chance to see a showdown relatively cheaply.

    And like Tyler said, leading the river ain't bad if you have the guy pegged as a scare card bluffer.

    HEPFAP principles will likely just get you into trouble at this level. SSH fo life!
    -jay

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    When anyone is close to all-in I give them unlimited action.
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    i'm not worried about the AI guy -- he has crap and everyone knows it. could you explain further?
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    There's not too many hands here that would beat you that would have reasonably entered the pot without raising.. 88 maybe.

    Your hand is good hear most of the time. I check and plan to call if he bets.. I can't put him on a three and 88 is remote. He'f probably bluffing on the turn and if you bet the river, a fold can usually be expected. I try to win that extra bet.

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